Wikipédia:Kaviareň/Novinky

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Stôl pre diskusiu o novinkách v Kaviarni sa používa na oznámenia o nových šablónach, wikiprojektoch, podrobnostiach a iných novinkách na Wikipédii.

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Otvorte novú tému pri stole noviniek

Archív noviniek[upraviť | upraviť zdroj]

Diskusie pri tomto stole staršie ako 30 dní (dátum poslednej reakcie) sú presúvané do archívu.

Our plan[upraviť | upraviť zdroj]

If no large concerns are raised, we plan on deploying in the week of October 3, 2022. If your community would like to request more time to discuss the changes, hit the button and write to us. We can adjust the calendar.

Also, if you'd like ask our team anything, if you have questions, concerns, or additional thoughts, please ping me here or write on the talk page of the project. We will also gladly answer! See our FAQ. Thank you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (diskusia) 03:14, 22. september 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]

@MNadzikiewicz (WMF): As I have written already, to me the skin has more disadvantages than advantages and I doubt I will use it as my default. The biggest drawback for me is the disorganized interwiki links: having the listed on the side in alphabetical order makes navigation very easy. Clicking on a drop-down menu with unintuitive ordering makes navigation a lot slower. I hardly use the table of content (much less frequently than interwikis). Has any research been done on this wiki? Did you look at the interwiki problem? If the new skin makes tool-scrolling 16% better but interwiki scrolling 60% worse (for example), I do not think the changes are worth it.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 06:54, 22. september 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]
@Jetam2, thanks for the engagement! Let me ping @SGrabarczuk (WMF), as the person responsible for this. Cheers! MNadzikiewicz (WMF) (diskusia) 02:37, 23. september 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]
Hi @Jetam2. Thank you for your comment.
  • We've been working on this skin since 2019; it's been the default on some wikis since 2020. Statistically, in its current state, it is a net improvement already. But there are some tradeoffs that won't work for everyone. We're still working on some details. On your side, currently, you may easily opt-out and never see the skin again. We won't disable Vector legacy. You may also switch back and forth between the skins. You can configure Vector 2022. So, there are many options, and you may change your mind whenever you want.
  • We've done research on a number of wikis, close to 30. These were small and big projects, Wikipedias and sister projects, LTR and RTL scripts - all the variety.
  • Regarding the language switching:
    • The primary goal for moving the list to a button at the top of the page was the problem of readers not knowing that interwiki exist. They would search, say, Carpathians in Slovak instead of going straight to sk:Karpaty. You can learn more about that on this page.
    • The sorting itself is, I admit, arbitrary. That's because there's no Universally Working Solution. Our colleagues, the Language team, have found out that this method is just good enough. In some cases, all you need to do is to type the language code in the language menu search widget, eg. pl or cs.
    • Based on a discussion with some members of the Russian and Ukrainian-language communities, we're considering three other options to keep the button but also make it easier for users like you. You can take part in the discussion here.
SGrabarczuk (WMF) (diskusia) 16:51, 23. september 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]
@SGrabarczuk (WMF): I would be interested in knowing that the set up for interwiki links works. In my humble view, a list is definitely easier to spot than a button. After the skin became default here I wasted no time in setting it back. After white I forgot about it until the other day I was looking for something on a work computer. Eventhough I am a seasoned user and knew what to look for it took me around 2 seconds to find the interwiki button. How does that work for first time visitors? Are they actually clicking faster or finding the links faster?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 14:02, 18. november 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]
@Jetam2, yes! It's not even about first-time visitors, but about occasional users, too. Most of them weren't even aware of the existence of interwiki links. Read more on the page about the feature, and see the user testing report. Languages are described almost at the end. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (diskusia) 16:36, 21. november 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]
@SGrabarczuk (WMF): The study says „Almost all of the readers were unable to understand the purpose of the main menu section and did not find it to be relevant.“ (41) but does not elaborate. The report also says „Most of the readers could understand the terminology and concept of Languages. They were unaware that they had an option of changing the Language within the article.“ (80) Has this been solved by moving the language section and making it even more obscure? „Most of the readers who explored Languages were unaware about this feature and had not seen it before.“ Do they see it better now? The study was conducted only on English Wikipedia and in person in Pune, India. Perhaps there was other research done but a major global change should hardly be based on a local study like this. From the page you linked: „In July 2021, we moved the language button to a more convenient location at the top of the page. However, the results of our A/B test indicated that the new location of the button might be difficult to discover“. Over a year ago, there was an idea that the new location is a problem and there does not seem to be any new development since. Why should the language switching even be a button when you can have all the links displayed and seen within virtually no time. Why is there a need to hide the links and make users look for languages which considerably slows the process down?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 14:26, 22. november 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]
Hey @Jetam2 — to recap and clarify, there are two separate challenges/goals here:
1) Help people discover interlanguage links
2) Help people find the specific interlanguage link they want
Regarding the first challenge/goal: the simple user testing we did (link) gave us initial confidence that a button at the top of the page (near the article title), is more discoverable than a list of links in the sidebar. People were able to find the button about three times faster than the list of links. Once we launched the feature we began collecting data from our pilot wikis for confirmation, however because people were switching between pilot wikis (Vector 2022), and non-pilot wikis (Legacy Vector), we were unable to get usable data (i.e. because the language links would move from one location to another). In other words, in the short term while some wikis were using Vector 2022 and others were using Legacy Vector we introduced some confusion about where language links were, which meant that any data was not useful. Now that Vector 2022 is deployed on most wikis we are going to circle back and collect usable data. If we find that the language links are less discoverable than they are in Legacy Vector we will revisit the styling of the button, and potentially the location. We've also sketched out other options, which you can see here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T301787.
Regarding the second challenge/goal: contrary to what @SGrabarczuk (WMF) said before, the order of the language links in the menu is not arbitrary. I am including the design rationale which was originally provided in this discussion (link) by @Pginer-WMF, who is the designer on the language team:
The language selector uses different clues to figure out which are the recommended languages. Although different factors are considered, those are prioritized. For example, top priority is based on the previous selections. That is, a user that frequently reads in French, Japanese and Igbo would get those always in their suggestions for pages available in those languages. Similarly, the browser languages are considered next if it was not possible to fill the suggestions with the previous criteria. Additional criteria can be considered in cases where it is hard to fill the suggestions because of the languages in which content is available (something which will vary significantly from page to page).
Some of the criteria based on location or relation to content may need some polishing in some cases (data is based on CLDR and can be improved). In any case, as mentioned above, for a user that speaks and uses a given set of languages, in practical terms the suggestions are going to surface those (even if some of the additional suggestions are sub-optimal at times). In contrast, with the classical approach of a flat list, a speaker of a language with low Wikipedia coverage would have to scan long lists of languages to find whether the content is available in theirs (which may not be in mosts cases), and they would have to do that every single time without the system making it easier after the first try.
More detail about the criteria for suggested languages is described in more detail here.
Does that help to clarify our thought process here? Please let me know what you think and if you have additional questions. Thanks, AHollender (WMF) (diskusia) 19:36, 22. november 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]


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Hi všetci,

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Toto sú predbežné výsledky volieb do správnej rady v roku 2022:

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Správna rada dokončí preskúmanie kandidátov s najvyšším počtom hlasov vrátane vykonania previerok. Rada plánuje vymenovať nových členov na svojom decembrovom zasadnutí.

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MNadzikiewicz (WMF) (diskusia) 06:17, 23. september 2022 (UTC), preklad a zvýraznenie: --Dušan Kreheľ (diskusia) 07:32, 23. september 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]

Počet používateľských načítaných stránok za rok 2021 pre skwiki[upraviť | upraviť zdroj]

Mesaciac Použivateľských načítaní
Január 22 599 018
Február 22 931 112
Marec 24 479 767
Apríl 19 784 371
Máj 17 236 053
Jún 13 810 949
Júl 11 290 775
August 11 681 888
September 13 182 563
Október 15 809 994
November 17 777 507
December 17 992 144
Spolu 208 576 141

Source: archive.org/details/2021-day-user-pageviews Dušan Kreheľ (diskusia) 19:22, 8. október 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]

Wiki miluje šport[upraviť | upraviť zdroj]

Ahojte! Dávam do pozoronosti novú súťaž, Wiki Loves Sport 2022. Súťaž začala 5. októbra a trvá do 20. decembra.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 19:54, 9. október 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]

Invitation to attend “Ask Me Anything about Movement Charter” Sessions[upraviť | upraviť zdroj]

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Hello all,

During the 2022 Wikimedia Summit, the Movement Charter Drafting Committee (MCDC) presented the first outline of the Movement Charter, giving a glimpse on the direction of its future work, and the Charter itself. The MCDC then integrated the initial feedback collected during the Summit. Before proceeding with writing the Charter for the whole Movement, the MCDC wants to interact with community members and gather feedback on the drafts of the three sections: Preamble, Values & Principles, and Roles & Responsibilities (intentions statement). The Movement Charter drafts will be available on the Meta page here on November 14, 2022. Community wide consultation period on MC will take place from November 20 to December 18, 2022. Learn more about it here.

With the goal of ensuring that people are well informed to fully participate in the conversations and are empowered to contribute their perspective on the Movement Charter, three “Ask Me Anything about Movement Charter" sessions have been scheduled in different time zones. Everyone in the Wikimedia Movement is invited to attend these conversations. The aim is to learn about Movement Charter - its goal, purpose, why it matters, and how it impacts your community. MCDC members will attend these sessions to answer your questions and hear community feedback.

The “Ask Me Anything” sessions accommodate communities from different time zones. Only the presentation of the session is recorded and shared afterwards, no recording of conversations. Below is the list of planned events:

  • Asia/Pacific: November 4, 2022 at 09:00 UTC (your local time). Interpretation is available in Chinese and Japanese.
  • Europe/MENA/Sub Saharan Africa: November 12, 2022 at 15:00 UTC (your local time). Interpretation is available in Arabic, French and Russian.
  • North and South America/ Western Europe: November 12, 2022 at 15:00 UTC (your local time). Interpretation is available in Spanish and Portuguese.

On the Meta page you will find more details; Zoom links will be shared 48 hours ahead of the call.

Call for Movement Charter Ambassadors

Individuals or groups from all communities who wish to help include and start conversations in their communities on the Movement Charter are encouraged to become Movement Charter Ambassadors (MC Ambassadors). MC Ambassadors will carry out their own activities and get financial support for enabling conversations in their own languages. Regional facilitators from the Movement Strategy and Governance team are available to support applicants with MC Ambassadors grantmaking. If you are interested please sign up here. Should you have specific questions, please reach out to the MSG team via email: strategy2030@wikimedia.org or on the MS forum.

We thank you for your time and participation.

On behalf of the Movement Charter Drafting Committee,

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You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.

Hello all,

During the 2022 Wikimedia Summit, the Movement Charter Drafting Committee (MCDC) presented the first outline of the Movement Charter, giving a glimpse on the direction of its future work, and the Charter itself. The MCDC then integrated the initial feedback collected during the Summit. Before proceeding with writing the Charter for the whole Movement, the MCDC wants to interact with community members and gather feedback on the drafts of the three sections: Preamble, Values & Principles, and Roles & Responsibilities (intentions statement). The Movement Charter drafts will be available on the Meta page here on November 14, 2022. Community wide consultation period on MC will take place from November 20 to December 18, 2022. Learn more about it here.

With the goal of ensuring that people are well informed to fully participate in the conversations and are empowered to contribute their perspective on the Movement Charter, three “Ask Me Anything about Movement Charter" sessions have been scheduled in different time zones. Everyone in the Wikimedia Movement is invited to attend these conversations. The aim is to learn about Movement Charter - its goal, purpose, why it matters, and how it impacts your community. MCDC members will attend these sessions to answer your questions and hear community feedback.

The “Ask Me Anything” sessions accommodate communities from different time zones. Only the presentation of the session is recorded and shared afterwards, no recording of conversations. Below is the list of planned events:

  • Asia/Pacific: November 4, 2022 at 09:00 UTC (your local time). Interpretation is available in Chinese and Japanese.
  • Europe/MENA/Sub Saharan Africa: November 12, 2022 at 15:00 UTC (your local time). Interpretation is available in Arabic, French and Russian.
  • North and South America/ Western Europe: November 12, 2022 at 15:00 UTC (your local time). Interpretation is available in Spanish and Portuguese.

On the Meta page you will find more details; Zoom links will be shared 48 hours ahead of the call.

Call for Movement Charter Ambassadors

Individuals or groups from all communities who wish to help include and start conversations in their communities on the Movement Charter are encouraged to become Movement Charter Ambassadors (MC Ambassadors). MC Ambassadors will carry out their own activities and get financial support for enabling conversations in their own languages. Regional facilitators from the Movement Strategy and Governance team are available to support applicants with MC Ambassadors grantmaking. If you are interested please sign up here. Should you have specific questions, please reach out to the MSG team via email: strategy2030@wikimedia.org or on the MS forum.

We thank you for your time and participation.

On behalf of the Movement Charter Drafting Committee,

MNadzikiewicz (WMF) 15:33, 7. november 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]

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Apply for Funding through the Movement Strategy Community Engagement Package to Support Your Community[upraviť | upraviť zdroj]

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The Wikimedia Movement Strategy implementation is a collaborative effort for all Wikimedians. Movement Strategy Implementation Grants support projects that take the current state of a Movement Strategy Initiative and push it one step forward. If you are looking for an example or some guide on how to engage your community further on Movement Strategy and the Movement Strategy Implementation Grants specifically, you may find this community engagement package helpful.

The goal of this community engagement package is to support more people to access the funding they might need for the implementation work. By becoming a recipient of this grant, you will be able to support other community members to develop further grant applications that fit with your local contexts to benefit your own communities. With this package, the hope is to break down language barriers and to ensure community members have needed information on Movement Strategy to connect with each other. Movement Strategy is a two-way exchange, we can always learn more from the experiences and knowledge of Wikimedians everywhere. We can train and support our peers by using this package, so more people can make use of this great funding opportunity.

If this information interests you or if you have any further thoughts or questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to us as your regional facilitators to discuss further. We will be more than happy to support you. When you are ready, follow the steps on this page to apply. We look forward to receiving your application.

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Difference between Antické umenie and Staroveké umenie[upraviť | upraviť zdroj]

Hi! I'm coming from Wikidata, where I stumbled upon those two articles. The first one is well described and linked to other wikis, while the second is isolated. I unfortunatly don't speak slovakian, so I am unable to assess by myself if they are on the same topic : I think I understand that the first one is more focused on Greece and Rome while the second one has a wider scope, but I would appreciate your help with it. Thanks! --Jahl de Vautban (diskusia) 08:22, 18. november 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]

Hi, yes „Antické umenie“ refers to art of what is in English known as Classical Antiquity while „Staroveké umenie“ refers to art of the Ancient times in a broader scope. I altered the two on wikidata a bit so „Staroveké umenie“ would be linked with „Ancient art“ because that's more fitting. CaeCalig (diskusia) 08:49, 18. november 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]
Names: "Ancient art" is a subset of "Ancient art". Dušan Kreheľ (diskusia) 09:58, 18. november 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]

Ázijský mesiac Wikipédie 2022[upraviť | upraviť zdroj]

Ahojte, odštartovali sme Ázijský mesiac Wikipédie 2022. Prihlasovátko cez Fountain je hotové a funguje.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 13:58, 18. november 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]

Opportunities open for the Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee[upraviť | upraviť zdroj]

Hi everyone! The Ombuds commission (OC) and the Case Review Committee (CRC) are looking for members. People are encouraged to nominate themselves or encourage others they feel would contribute to these groups to do so. There is more information below about the opportunity and the skills that are needed.

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Volunteers serving in this role should be experienced Wikimedians, active on any project, who have previously used the CheckUser/Oversight tools OR who have the technical ability to understand these tools and the willingness to learn them. They must be able to communicate in English, the common language of the commission. They are expected to be able to engage neutrally in investigating these concerns and to know when to recuse when other roles and relationships may cause conflict. Commissioners will serve two-year terms (note that this is different from past years, when the terms have been for one year).

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We are looking for current or former functionaries and experienced volunteers with an interest in joining this group. Applicants must be fluent in English (additional languages are a strong plus) and willing to abide by the terms of the Committee charter. If the work resonates and you qualify, please apply. Committee members will serve two-year terms (note that this is different from past years, when the terms have been for one year).

Applying to join either of these groups

Members are required to sign the Confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information and must be willing to comply with the appropriate Wikimedia Foundation board policies (such as the access to non-public information policy and the Foundation privacy policy). These positions requires a high degree of discretion and trust. Members must also be over 18 years of age.

If you are interested in serving in either capacity listed above, please write in English to the Trust and Safety team at ca(_AT_)wikimedia.org (to apply to the OC) or to the Legal Team at legal(_AT_)wikimedia.org (to apply to the CRC) with information about:

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The deadline for applications is 31 December 2022 in any timezone.

Please feel free to pass this invitation along to any users who you think may be qualified and interested. Thank you!

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Join the Movement Charter Regional Conversation Hours[upraviť | upraviť zdroj]

Hi all,

As most of you are aware, the Movement Charter Drafting Committee (MCDC) is currently collecting community feedback about three draft sections of the Movement Charter: Preamble, Values & Principles, and Roles & Responsibilities (intentions statement).

How can you participate and share your feedback?

The MCDC is looking forward to receiving all types of feedback in different languages from the community members across the Movement and Affiliates. You can participate in the following ways:

  • Attend the community conversation hours with MCDC members. Details about the regional community conversation hours are published here
  • Fill out a survey (optional and anonymous)
  • Share your thoughts and feedback on the Meta talk page
  • Share your thoughts and feedback on the MS Forum:
  • Send an email to: movementcharter@wikimedia.org if you have other feedback to the MCDC.

Community consultation hour for the Central and Eastern Europe and Central Asia will take place on Saturday, 26 October 2022 at 15:00 UTC on Zoom. It will be translated into Polish and Russian. The conversations will not be recorded, except for the section where participants are invited to share what they discussed in the breakout rooms. We will take notes and produce a summary report afterwards.

If you want to learn more about the Movement Charter, its goals, why it matters and how it impacts your community, please watch the recording of the “Ask Me Anything about Movement Charter” sessions which took place earlier in November 2022.

Thank you for your participation.

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MediaWiki message delivery (diskusia) 16:04, 24. november 2022 (UTC)Odpovědět[odpovedať]