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Tech News: 2020-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [1]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 January. It will be on all wikis from 9 January (calendar).

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21:18, 6. január 2020 (UTC)

Částečné bloky

Pro informaci: [2]. Bylo by vhodné uvést tuto možnost v našich pravidlech a nápovědách. -OJJ^✉ 13:17, 7. január 2020 (UTC)

Tak to funguje a existuje i slovenský překlad. To kvituji. Vabdal byl ale chytrý a přelezl hned na jinou stránku. :-) -OJJ^✉ 13:22, 7. január 2020 (UTC)

Zaujímavý nápad a som zvedavý, že či to na časť vandalov so záujmom na konkrétny článok pomôže. Vasiľ (diskusia) 13:25, 7. január 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser use very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It can lead to downgrade attacks. Since 9 December you just see a warning. Soon the browser will not connect to the wikis at all. Most are users on Android systems older than 4.4. You can read the browser recommendations. [3]
• Special:LinkSearch has been moved from the "Špeciálne stránky, ktoré sú presmerovania" section on Special:SpecialPages to the "Zoznamy stránok" section. [4]

Changes later this week

• Wikis can protect pages so that only some users can edit them. The standard protection levels are Povoliť iba automaticky schváleným používateľom and Povoliť iba správcom. If your wiki use more protection levels the technical name might be renamed for standardisation. This doesn't affect what users see. [5]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 January. It will be on all wikis from 16 January (calendar).

Future changes

• Deepcat and Catgraph will stop working. This will happen at the end of January. This is because you can now use the normal search function instead. [6]
• You can use <ref follow="…"> to merge footnotes that follow each other. It is meant to be used for digitised books on Wikisource. If the order of the footnotes is wrong no error was shown but the bad <ref> was shown outside the <references /> list. This will change and you will see an error message instead. [7]

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MediaWiki message delivery (diskusia) 18:39, 13. január 2020 (UTC)

Šablóna

Ahoj, vedel by niekto, kto sa vyzná v šablónach vytvoriť na sk wiki túto šablónu na citáty? cs:Šablona:P-citát_v_rámečku Vopred ďakujem ak by sa do toho niekto pustil :) ScholastikosSVK (diskusia) 12:02, 20. január 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-04

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 January. It will be on all wikis from 23 January (calendar).

Future changes

• There is a new suggestion for what to show when someone edits without registering an account. This is to give unregistered editors better privacy and make some anti-vandalism work go faster. You can give feedback.
• Pywikibot is a Python library to automate work on wikis. It will no longer support Python 2. Use the python2 tag if you need to continue running Python 2 scripts. The Pywikibot team strongly recommends to migrate to Python 3. You can get help to do so. [8]
• The weekly MediaWiki branch cut will soon become automated. The timing for this cut may change. You can discuss in Phabricator if this affects you. [9]
• You can read about coming technical events and mentoring interns.

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19:40, 20. január 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-05

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Some mobile diffs have problems. A couple of buttons are not shown. Structured data diffs on Commons are confusing. The developers are working on fixing it. [10][11]
• Administrators on wikis that use Structured Discussions can't move discussion pages. This is a bug. The developers are working on fixing it. [12]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• There is JavaScript code on Special:Undelete for administrators that makes it possible to automatically select multiple checkboxes by holding the "Shift" key and clicking. This code is also loaded by accident on other special pages and on articles. This makes pages slower to load. This will be fixed. If you know of other special pages where this is useful please tell the developers at phab:T232688.

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18:52, 27. január 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-06

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 February. It will be on all wikis from 6 February (calendar).

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20:04, 3. február 2020 (UTC)

Šablóna:Klad

Ahoj na Slovensko. Opravil jsem (= překopíroval jsem :)) modul a styly k šabloně {{klad}}. V současnosti (nevím, jestli jste to zaregistrovali) se totiž při větším počtu větvení kladogram přestal zobrazovat. Takže už by to mělo fungovat jako na enwiki. Souběžně s tím jsem překopíroval i šablonu {{Barlabel}}, která by tím měla fungovat taktéž. Jsou to +- omalovánky a moc si na ně nepotrpím, ale může to být užitečné pro nějaké grafické odlišení (omlouvám se za pitomé názvy, ale nějak se mi nechce vymýšlet něco chytrého :)).

Opice více chlupatá     Opice chlupatá     Opice bez chlupů   Lidoopi   Neznámý lidoop   Známí lidoopi   První lidoop     Druhý lidoop     Třetí lidoop

Skupina 1 podle Nováka Skupina 2 podle Nováka

Jestli by někdo přeložil en:Template:Barlabel/doc, bylo by to fajn. Zatím to beru čistě jako doplňující šablonu třeba při přebírání z enwiki. ---OJJ^✉ 13:26, 7. február 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-07

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There is a new version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It should fix the failed uploads problem. [13]

Problems

• There was a problem with the new MediaWiki version last week. It deleted some messages by accident. The new version was late because it was stopped to fix things. [14]

Changes later this week

• The MediaWiki action API is used by various tools like bots and gadgets. Some error codes will change. Some parameter values that do not follow the standard will no longer work. [15]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 February. It will be on all wikis from 13 February (calendar).

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19:09, 10. február 2020 (UTC)

Infobox rastliny/huby/živočíchy

Na margo tohto plánujem urobiť hromadne takéto úpravy. --Vegetator (diskusia) 19:29, 11. február 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-08

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Pages on Wikidata and Commons now load faster. You can read more about page load performance. [16][17]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 February. It will be on all wikis from 20 February (calendar).

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16:16, 17. február 2020 (UTC)

Geografia podľa okresu

Ahojte!@Hornokysučan, Pe3kZA: et al. IMHO by bolo dobré vytvoriť geografické kategórie aj podľa okresu, aby sme tam mohli dávať nielen podkategóriu pre vrchy, ale aj iné geografické záležitosti. Čo myslíte?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 08:16, 23. február 2020 (UTC)

Ok--Pe3kZA^✉ 08:27, 23. február 2020 (UTC)

Dobrý nápad, ale na tých skoro 80 kategórií + Wikidata a Commons budeme potrebovať niekoho s veľkou dávkou trpezlivosti ;-) --Hornokysučan (diskusia) 08:39, 23. február 2020 (UTC)

Začal som teda s BB krajom. Inak na Commons kategórie podľa okresov nie sú takže netreba zatiaľ riešiť ani Wikidáta.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 11:11, 23. február 2020 (UTC)

BB, ZA, TT a NR kraj hotovo.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 11:59, 23. február 2020 (UTC)

@Hornokysučan, Pe3kZA: Ešte mi napadá či nie je názov "Vodstvo v okrese Čadca" lepšie ako "Vodné toky v okrese Čadca"? V prípade vodstva by sme tam mohli dať aj jazerá, plesá, priehrady, rybníky atď. Inak cs.wiki má kategórie Vodstvo v okrese ... a teda sa už dajú robiť interwiki :)--Jetam2 (diskusia) 11:59, 23. február 2020 (UTC)

No, je to vcelku logické, no ak máme „vrchy“, potom je podľa mňa na mieste mať konkrétne objekty. Tie by mohli byť zaradené v nadradených kat. - pri vodných tokoch, no i vodných plochách a i. pod „vodstvo“. Riešiš často kategórie (vyznáš sa v tom), urob jedno vzorové riešenie a budeme podľa toho postupovať.--Pe3kZA^✉ 12:21, 23. február 2020 (UTC) (PS: osobne by som to nemiešal - potoky, rieky, rybníky, priehrady, plesá...)

Tech News: 2020-09

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 February. It will be on all wikis from 27 February (calendar).

Future changes

• There will be a reply button after each post on a talk page if you want one. This will soon be a beta feature on the Arabic, French, Dutch and Hungarian Wikipedias. You will have to turn it on if you want to use it. It will come to more wikis later. You can test the reply button. It was briefly shown earlier than planned by mistake on the four first wikis last week.

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20:59, 24. február 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-10

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Readers who were not logged in briefly saw the interface in a language decided by their browser. It should normally be in the language of the wiki. This happened for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug. [18]

Changes later this week

• If you forget your password you can ask for a new one to be sent to your email address. You need to know your email address or your username. You will now be able to choose that you need to enter both your email address and your username. This will be a preference. This is to get fewer password reset emails someone else asked for. [19]
• When you asked for a new password you could see if the username didn't exist on Special:PasswordReset. Now the page will show the username you entered and tell you an email has been sent if the username exists. This is for better security. [20]
• On Special:WhatLinksHere you can see what other pages link to a page. You can see if the link is from a redirect. You can now see which section the redirect links to. [21]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 March. It will be on all wikis from 5 March (calendar).

Future changes

• The developers are working on a new interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. You can give feedback. [22]
• There is a vote on the creation of a new user group called abuse filter manager. The vote runs from March 1 to March 31 on Meta.
• wgMFSpecialCaseMainPage was used for the mobile site. It was deprecated in 2017. It will stop working in April. Wikis should see if they use it. If they do they should fix it. You can read more and ask for help. This affects 183 wikis. There is a list. [23]

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00:35, 3. marec 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-11

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There is a new search word called articletopic. You can use it to search for articles on a specific topic. It is available on the Arabic, Czech, English and Vietnamese Wikipedias. It will come to more Wikipedias soon. [24][25][26]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 March. It will be on all wikis from 12 March (calendar).

Future changes

• There is a plan for new requirements for user signatures. You can give feedback.
• The Wikipedia Android app will do push notifications if users want them. This could help you see for example when someone wrote on your talk page or your edit was reverted. This will come later this year. [27]

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17:14, 9. marec 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There is a new API module for changing the content model of existing pages. Use action=changecontentmodel to specify the new model. You can read the documentation on mediawiki.org. [28]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 March. It will be on all wikis from 19 March (calendar).

Future changes

• If you edit a page at the same time as someone else you can get an edit conflict. There is a new two-column interface to make it easier to solve this. It will soon be active by default on the German, Arabic, and Farsi Wikipedias. It will be on by default on more wikis within the next months. You will be able to opt out of the new interface. [29][30]
• You can see a proposed design for replying to comments in an easier way.

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21:18, 16. marec 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-13

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Some development will be slower than planned. This is because of the current pandemic. You can see the new deployment guidelines. This is to avoid risks when some persons could be unavailable.
• There was a problem when adding interwiki links. The tool you use to add interwiki links could suggest the wrong project to link to. This has now been fixed. [31][32]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 March. It will be on all wikis from 26 March (calendar).

Future changes

• There is a project to make editing easier for newcomers. The developers are trying to understand what initiatives different Wikipedias have to welcome newcomers. They also want to know which templates are often used for maintenance activities. You can help this project by checking if your wiki's pages are listed on Wikidata.

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17:05, 23. marec 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The beta version of the Wikipedia app for Android can now help users add tags on Commons. These tags are called depicts. [33]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 April. It will be on all wikis from 2 April (calendar).

Future changes

• The video player will change to be simpler and more modern. The current beta feature will become the video player for everyone. The old player will be removed. [34]
• There is a project to make templates easier to use. The next few weeks the developers will present ideas on the project page. You can watch that page if you are interested in giving feedback. [35]

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17:24, 30. marec 2020 (UTC)

Severné Macedónsko

Zdravím! Všimol som si dnes, že po premenovaní Macedónska na Severné Macedónsko sme síce premiestnili článok a presmerovali nejaké wikilinky, ale s kategóriami sme nepohli. Niektoré z nich som teda popresúval, ale ešte niektoré ostali (potrebujem aj do práce pracovať). Otázne je ako vyriešiť prídavné meno, teda kategórie typu Kategória:Macedónske osobnosti v kultúre. Presunúť na severomacedónske osobnosti?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 09:02, 3. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Nikto nič?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 12:56, 7. apríl 2020 (UTC)

@Jetam2: [36] – podľa mňa presunúť. --TomášP ✉ 13:38, 7. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Rovnako Názvy štátov používa prídavné meno „severomacedónska“, takže aj pri kategóriach by som tak šiel. Vasiľ (diskusia) 17:40, 7. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• There was a problem with user pages not being shown properly on desktop. This was because of a bug. It will soon be fixed. [37]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 April. It will be on all wikis from 9 April (calendar).

Future changes

• MediaWiki will use a newer version of Unicode. Some characters that did not have an upper case equivalent before do now. Titles beginning with one of these characters will be moved. A list of these titles can be seen on Phabricator. The titles will be renamed by the user Maintenance script. This will start on 13 April 2020. You can rename them before this if you wish and the new title can be different from the one the script would rename it to. [38]

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19:01, 6. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools

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This early version of the Reply tool automatically signs and indents comments.

The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.

In a future update, the team plans to test a tool for easily linking to another user's name, a rich-text editing option, and other tools.

The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.

• On 31 March 2020, the new odpovedať tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
• The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
  • an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
  • a rich-text visual editing option, and
  • other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.

To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

19:27, 8. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now use the articletopic search word on all Wikipedias. It searches articles by topic. [39]
• You can see wiki tools in the new Tools Gallery. [40]
• You can see edits from the Wikimedia Cloud Services in a new dashboard.
• When you use filters on a history page you sometimes don't see any edits. There is a text explaining this now. Before it was just empty. [41]
• There is a new Wikimedia Technical Blog. [42]

Problems

• There was a problem with the Wikidata database last week. Some wikis went down for twenty minutes. Wikidata and other projects showed error messages. Interwiki links were not shown, some tools did not work and other problems. Some of this was fixed quickly. The developers are working on fixing the rest. [43][44][45]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 15. It will be on all wikis from April 16 (calendar).

Future changes

• Some graphs have not worked on mobile. This will soon be fixed. [46]
• The article tab on talk pages of redirects links to the target of the redirect. It could link to the redirect page itself instead. You can leave feedback on this.
• For pages using syntax highlighting, the use of the deprecated <source> tag, as well as the use of the deprecated enclose parameter, will add tracking categories.

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15:30, 13. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

• The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 4 May 2020.

Recent changes

• The small wiki toolkits is to help smaller wikis that need technical skills. They can learn and share technical skills. [47]
• Over-qualified CSS selectors in Wikimedia skins have been removed. div#content is now .mw-body. div.portal is now .portal. div#footer is now #footer. This is so the skins can use HTML5 elements. If your gadgets or user styles used them you will have to update them. [48]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• Some things on the wikis might look weird or not work in Internet Explorer 8 in the future. Internet Explorer 8 was replaced in 2011. [49]
• The font in the diffs will change. [50]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 April next week. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 April next week. It will be on all wikis from 30 April next week (calendar).

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18:44, 20. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Technical maintenance planned

(Sorry for using English. Pomôžte prosím s prekladom do svojho jazyka.)

A maintenance operation will be performed on Thursday 30th April at 05:00 AM UTC.

It impacts all wikis and is supposed to last a few minutes.

During this time, new translations may fail, and Notifications may not be delivered. For more details about the operation and on all impacted services, please check on Phabricator.

A banner will be displayed 30 minutes before the operation.

Please help making your community aware of this maintenance operation.

Trizek (WMF), 18:01, 27. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Reminder: Technical maintenance planed

Sorry to use English. Pomôžte prosím s prekladom do svojho jazyka.

This is a reminder of the message sent on Monday 27th April.

A maintenance operation will be performed on Thursday 30th April at 05:00 AM UTC.

It impacts all wikis and is supposed to last a few minutes.

During this time, new translations may fail, and Notifications may not be delivered. For more details about the operation and on all impacted services, please check on Phabricator.

A banner will be displayed 30 minutes before the operation.

Please help making your community aware of this maintenance operation.

Trizek (WMF) 15:13, 29. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-19

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Some wikis will be on read-only for a few minutes on 5 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [51]
• Some wikis will be on read-only for a few minutes on 7 May. This will also affect CentralAuth. This can for example affect global renames, password changes, changing or confirming your email address and logging in to new wikis. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [52]

Changes later this week

• You can get a notification when someone links to a page you created. You can soon turn these notifications off for individual pages. [53]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 May. It will be on all wikis from 7 May (calendar).

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16:59, 4. máj 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-20

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Everyone can now import photos from Flickr to Commons with the UploadWizard. Before this only autopatrollers on Commons could import photos from Flickr. [54]

Problems

• Commons will be on read-only for a few minutes on 12 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [55]
• Several wikis including Wikidata will be on read-only for a few minutes on 19 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. English Wikipedia will be on read-only for a few minutes on 21 May 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [56][57]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 May. It will be on all wikis from 14 May (calendar).

Future changes

• JavaScript scripts and gadgets can no longer check multiple keys at once via mw.config.exists() or mw.user.tokens.exists(). You can use exists() or get() to check one at a time instead. [58]

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20:40, 11. máj 2020 (UTC)

Obyvateľstvo v rakúskych obciach

Všimla som si, že šablóny na počet obyvateľov v rakúskych obciach sú s dátumom k 01. 01. 2014. Na de wiki je už údaj k 01. 01. 2019. Poprosím technických majstrov o aktualizáciu.--Lalina (diskusia) 20:40, 12. máj 2020 (UTC)

@Lalina: Je to vec na ľudí, ktorí to sem importovali. Buď by bolo treba aktualizovať dátové šablóny, alebo to preklopiť na ťahanie z Wikiúdajov, alebo neaktualizovať ID obcí. Ja sa starám o SK obce, konzistencia a aktuálnosť AT je už mimo môj scope a časové možnosti. --Teslaton (diskusia) 11:07, 22. máj 2020 (UTC)

Taktiež nemám na to chuť ani kapacitu.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 11:29, 22. máj 2020 (UTC)

Záporné čísla v tabuľke

Pri úprave stránky Pandémia koronavírusu SARS-CoV-2 na Slovensku som pridal do tabuľky záporné čísla (zmena počtu aktívnych prípadov), ale znak "-" tabuľka chápe ako nový riadok. Čo mám použiť namiesto neho? (Upravím to sám, len trochu zmením python program a mám to za minútu) 1Mmarek (diskusia) 15:56, 18. máj 2020 (UTC)

Vyriešil som to tak, že som "-" zamenil za "{{--}}". Vyzerá to čudne, keďže je to omnoho širšie než normálne mínus (-5 vs.  – 5), ale určite je to zlepšenie oproti trhaniu riadkov. 1Mmarek (diskusia) 16:18, 18. máj 2020 (UTC)

@1Mmarek: To pls. nerob, š. {{--}} vkladá pomlčku (U+2013, –, „–“), navyše ešte obalenú nedeliteľnými medzerami a používa sa na typograficky korektnú sadzbu číselných rozsahov (1{{--}}5 → „1 – 5“). Znak mínus je odlišný od pomlčky (U+2212, −, „−“), v tabuľkách sa ale bežne používa ASCII variant pre mínus/spojovník (U+002D, „-“), dostupný z klávesnice. Pointa je, že hodnoty buniek sa vo wikimarkupe štandardne odsadzujú medzerou [59], potom záporné č. s tagmi pre začiatok bunky nekolidujú. Ďalšia vec, že číselné hodnoty je v tabuľkách dobrým zvykom zarovnávať doprava, aby boli rády pod sebou, v tomto prípade je možné doprava zarovnať všetky dátové bunky tabuľky. --Teslaton (diskusia) 17:02, 18. máj 2020 (UTC)

Ďakujem za vyjasnenie a opravu; mínusy, pomlčky i spojovníky ma vždy mýlili --1Mmarek (diskusia) 10:03, 19. máj 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-21

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• If you forget your password you can ask for a new one to be sent to your email address. You need to know your email address or your username. You can choose that you need to enter both your email address and your username. This is a preference. This is to get fewer password reset emails someone else asked for. This is now available on all Wikimedia wikis. [60][61]

Problems

• There is a bug that creates problems for iPhone users with iOS 13 and Safari. If you use an iPhone to read or edit Wikipedia and see bugs on the mobile site you can report them. [62]
• Several wikis including Wikidata will be on read-only for a few minutes on 19 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. English Wikipedia will be on read-only for a few minutes on 21 May 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [63][64]

Changes later this week

• The Wikipedia app for Android can let users add depicts on Commons. The beta version used computer-aided tagging. This was removed to get more specific depicts. [65]
• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• Graphs will be rendered in the reader's browser. This will use Javascript. Graphs will hopefully work better for everyone who uses Javascript. It will not work for users who don't use Javascript. This will not affect diagrams in image files. [66]
• Some CSS for the skins has been simplified. This affects div#p-personal, div#p-navigation, div#p-interaction, div#p-tb, div#p-lang, div#p-namespaces, div#p-variants and div#footer. They will have to remove div. You will have to update your gadgets, scripts or user styles. This is so we can use HTML5. [67]
• Some CSS for the Vector skin has been changed. This affects #p-variants, #p-namespaces, #p-personal, #p-views and #p-cactions. They can no longer use > ul. You might need to update your gadgets, scripts or user styles. See how.

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17:18, 18. máj 2020 (UTC)

Kategória pre olympionikov, ktorým boli odobraté medaily

Zdravím! Ako naformulovať kategóriu pre olympionikov, ktorým boli odobraté medaily? Skúsil som Kategória:Olympionici s odobratými medailami, ale znie to akoby tie medaily (ešte) mali. Máte niekto nápad? Vďaka.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 17:07, 22. máj 2020 (UTC)

• Olympionici, ktorým boli odobraté medaily?
• Olympionici po odobratí medailí?
• Olympionici zbavení [olympijských] medailí?
• Súťažiaci zbavení olympijských medailí? (je ešte na mieste „olympionici“?)
• Športovci zbavení olympijských medailí? (ak nie Olympionici, tak asi skôr Športovci, je to konzistentnejšie s kat., ktoré tu už máme [68])

--Teslaton (diskusia) 17:32, 22. máj 2020 (UTC)

Dobrá pripomienka či je vôbec na mieste „olympionici“. Celkom sa prikláňam k poslednému návrhu. Hm, akosi som si myslel, že čiarky sa technicky nedajú použiť, ale pokiaľ áno, aj tá prvá je ok. Iné názory?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 17:51, 22. máj 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-22

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The visual editor will now work in the Modern skin. The changes that needed to happen for this to work could cause problems for some scripts or gadgets. [69]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 26. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 27. It will be on all wikis from May 28 (calendar).

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14:17, 25. máj 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-23

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There is a new beta version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It has a new zoom function when you look at images. It can also suggest places when you upload geotagged photos. [70]

Problems

• There was a problem with the Commons database on 27 May. Commons could not be edited for eight minutes. Because of this problem the database was moved. This caused another short read-only time on 29 May. [71][72][73]
• The Vector skin had a problem where you couldn't add links to the article in other languages. You couldn't see the section if there were no links to other languages already. It also removed content translation links and links to language settings. This has now been fixed. [74]

Changes later this week

• You can get a notification when someone links to a page you created. You can turn these notifications off for individual pages. You can soon turn them off also in the notifications you get. [75]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 June. It will be on all wikis from 4 June (calendar).

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22:30, 1. jún 2020 (UTC)

Šablóna Infoboxu

Vytvoril som novú šablónu Šablóna:Infobox protest, podľa šablóny Šablóna:Infobox Bitka. Do syntaxu vytvárania šablón sa veľmi nevyznám a chvíľu mi trvalo, kým som dosiahol to, čo som s tou šablónou chcel dosiahnuť, lenže má jeden problém. Hociaký text, ktorý sa dá ďalej na stránke, za tú šablónu, tak sa vloží na koniec do vnútra Infoboxu. To sa mi stalo aj na tejto rozpracovanej stránke, kde som vložil sekciu Zdroje. Tá sa vložila priamo na spodok infoboxu. Ak by ste to niekto vedel napraviť, poprípade vysvetliť mi, ako to môžem napraviť, budem vám veľmi vďačný :). - Matroxko 💬 ✒️ 01:55, 2. jún 2020 (UTC)

@Matroxko: Myslím si, že vhodnejšie by bolo použiť priamo šablónu Šablóna:Infobox, namiesto taubľky, ktorá je štylizovaná ako infobox. Tam by mali problémy tohto druhu zaniknúť. --KasciJ 06:15, 2. jún 2020 (UTC)

Šablónu ktorú si vytvoril už tu máme takže je to zbytočná duplicita a treba používať len jednu, túto treba zmazať. Rovnakú šablónu na takéto účely máš tu - Šablóna:Infobox Konflikt, anglická je tu Template:Infobox civil conflict, ktorá sa používa aj na protesty. Keď ti tam chýbajú nejaké položky stačí len doplniť pôvodnú, nie vytvárať novú.--2A02:AB04:27BD:D900:955:1473:96B3:880B 15:21, 4. jún 2020 (UTC)

Áno, už som si to všimol. Napísal som o tom v diskusii k šablóne protest. Tak trochu upravím Šablóna: Infobox Konflikt a vymažem tie šablóny spojiť s na ostatných stránkach. Keď to spravím, napíšem sem, aby niekto potom vymazal šablónu protest - Matroxko 💬 ✒️ 15:49, 4. jún 2020 (UTC)

Pokúsil som sa upraviť tú šablónu konflikt, ale niečo tam nie je dobre. Teraz je robená pomocou wikitable a ja v tom mám taký menši chaos, ale ak by som mohol tak ju spravím cez Infobox. Alebo ak by to niekto vedel napraviť, tak prosím aj tak urobte. Ďakujem - Matroxko 💬 ✒️ 16:25, 4. jún 2020 (UTC)

Šablóna:Infobox Konflikt je už prerobená a použitá aj v článku Protesty po smrti Georga Floyda. Všetky 3 články, v ktorých bola použitá Šablóna:Infobox Konflikt, pred tým, ako som ju teraz upravil, som aktualizoval. Tým pádom sa môže Šablóna:Infobox protest zmazať. - Matroxko 💬 ✒️ 17:18, 4. jún 2020 (UTC)

Ešte by bolo dobre nejako poriešiť tu koláž v infoboxe. Zobrazuje sa zle, ostáva tam hore „[[Obrázok:“ a dole „|300px“. --2A02:AB04:27BD:D900:955:1473:96B3:880B 17:31, 4. jún 2020 (UTC)

Vyhľadávací box v Monobooku

Čaute. Nejaké nedávne zmeny/aktualizácie MW mali za následok, že sa vyhľadávací box v skine Monobook dostal až na spodok ľavého sidebaru (defaultného Vectoru sa to netýka, ten má vyhľadávanie hore v záhlaví). Vrátil som ho hore, nepamätal som si ale už, či bol pôvodne úplne hore pod logom, alebo až pod sekciou „navigácia“, takže som to robil iteratívne a nechal som ho nakoniec úplne hore [76]. Spätne ale pozerám v hist. screenshotoch ([77] napr.), že bol zrejme až pod navigáciou. Pokiaľ by nevyhovovalo súčasné umiestnenie pod logom (ergonomickú logiku to má a majú to tak v Monobooku na viacerých wiki – de, cz napr.), dajte vedieť, presuniem ho pod navigáciu. --Teslaton (diskusia) 17:43, 5. jún 2020 (UTC)

Infobox číslo

Chcel by som prerobiť Infobox číslo tak, aby vyzeral ako na anglickej alebo českej wiki. Už som s tým začal a skoro to tak aj vyzerá, len mám jeden problém. Infobox je zatiaľ len ako pieskovisko, aby sa neporušil vzhľad stránok o číslach. Ak si to pozriete, tak si všimnete, že to číslo, o ktorom je stránka, je v tabuľke a má iný font (V dokumentácii je ako príklad 1). S tým by som potreboval pomôcť. Skúšal som už rôzne veci a aj som hľadal v kóde anglického a českého Infoboxu, ale aj tak som to nevedel napraviť. Tak, ak to niekto viete opraviť, tak prosím, aj tak urobte. Ďakujem pekne. - Matroxko 💬 ✒️ 20:03, 8. jún 2020 (UTC)

Diskusia presunutá do Diskusia k šablóne:Infobox číslo#Aktualizácia. --Teslaton (diskusia) 17:19, 9. jún 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-24

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Some articles have tables that can be sorted in different ways. For example a list of countries can be sorted alphabetically but you can click on the size column to sort them by size. If you clicked on the column a second time it would sort the countries from the bottom to the top instead. A third click will now take you back to the original sorting. [78]
• Self-closed tags now work as in the HTML5 specifications. This means you should stop using some of them. <b/> is an example of a self-closed tag that won't work. area, base, br, col, embed, hr, img, input, keygen, link, meta, param, source, track, wbr can be self-closed. Pages with tags that should not be self-closed have been listed in a tracking category since 2016. They will be listed in Special:LintErrors/self-closed-tag. This doesn't affect <references /> or <ref />. [79]
• There is a banner called WikidataPageBanner. It is for example used by the Wikivoyages, Wikimedia Russia and the Catalan, Basque, Galician and Turkish Wikipedias. It will now been seen by mobile visitors too. Before this it was only seen on desktop. The wikis should update instructions on MediaWiki:Sitenotice so that editors know to test and style for mobile too. [80][81]

Changes later this week

• You can now edit MassMessage descriptions through the API. This is useful for tools and gadgets. [82]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 June. It will be on all wikis from 11 June (calendar).

Future changes

• A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use TemplateStyles instead. 118 wikis need to fix this. You can read more and see if your wiki is affected. [83]

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21:11, 8. jún 2020 (UTC)

Jak je to s bajtami

Ahojte, prosím Vás, viem nejakým spôsobom zistiť ešte pred tým, než novú stránku zverejním, aké množstvo bajtov bude mať ? Neviem či je to úplne normálna vec, alebo nie, ale ja niektoré čísla nemám rád a rád by som predišiel tomu, aby boli v histórií stránky. Tiež, niekedy keď pridám odkaz na slovo má iný počet bajtov než iný odkaz. Ďakujem za odpoveď. Marek Pafčuga (diskusia) 05:51, 10. jún 2020 (UTC)

@Marek Pafčuga:Info o každej stránke máš v ponuke „Nástroje“ (vľavo) a na záložke „Informácie o stránke“.--Pe3kZA^✉ 07:26, 10. jún 2020 (UTC)

Kolega myslel stránky pred zverejnením. Možno cez textový editor? Ale neviem akú má presnosť v porovnaní s wikikódom.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 08:37, 10. jún 2020 (UTC)

Keď sa markup v nejakom vývojárskom plaintextovom editore (PSPad, TextPad a pod.) uloží ako UTF-8 bez BOM prefixu, s UNIX newlajnami (len LF, nie CR+LF) a za posledným riadkom nebude extra LF, bude to sedieť na bajt. Akurát to bude opruz. No ale za poverčivosť za platí... :) --Teslaton (diskusia) 09:15, 10. jún 2020 (UTC)

Ďakujem Vám všetkým a želám príjemný deň, ste skvelí :) Marek Pafčuga (diskusia) 22:12, 10. jún 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-25

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Toolforge hosts several tools created by the Wikimedia community like edit counters or enhanced editors. It is changing the domain from tools.wmflabs.org to toolforge.org. The routing scheme is moving from tools.wmflabs.org/toolname to toolname.toolforge.org. You can read the details. Tools that use OAuth will have to be updated to keep working. You can ask for help.

Problems

• There is a Wikidata item link in the sidebar on many pages. This disappeared for a couple of days for users who have the Monobook skin. This was because of a bug. It has now been fixed. [84]
• Editing, logging in and logging out didn't work properly for a short period of time last week. It was soon fixed. [85]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 June. It will be on all wikis from 18 June (calendar).

Future changes

• Pywikibot is a Python library to automate work on wikis. It will not support Python 2 after the new version in July. Support for Python 3.4 and MediaWiki below 1.19 will also be dropped. You should migrate to Python 3. You can ask for help. [86]
• The selectors .menu and .vectorMenu will no longer work in the Vector skin. This can affect gadgets and user scripts. .menu should be replaced by ul. .vectorMenu should be replaced by .vector-menu. [87]

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21:36, 15. jún 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #2

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[[File:TalkPages-Reply-v2.0.png|alt=Mockup of the new reply feature, showing new editing tools|thumb|400x400px|The new features include a toolbar. What do you think should be in the toolbar?]]

This issue of the Editing newsletter includes information the Talk pages project, an effort to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily.

• Reply tool: This is available as a Beta Feature at the four partner wikis (Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian Wikipedias). The Beta Feature is called "Nástroje diskusie". The Beta Feature will get new features soon. The new features include writing comments in a new visual editing mode and pinging other users by typing @. You can test the new features on the Beta Cluster now. Some other wikis will have a chance to try the Beta Feature in the coming months.
• New requirements for user signatures: Soon, users will not be able to save invalid custom signatures in Special:Preferences. This will reduce signature spoofing, prevent page corruption, and make new talk page tools more reliable. Most editors will not be affected.
• New discussion tool: The Editing team is beginning work on a simpler process for starting new discussions. You can see the initial design on the project page.
• Research on the use of talk pages: The Editing team worked with the Wikimedia research team to study how talk pages help editors improve articles. We learned that new editors who use talk pages make more edits to the main namespace than new editors who don't use talk pages.

– Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

20:33, 17. jún 2020 (UTC)

Technické problémy?

Ahoj, máte tiež problémy s vkladaním referencií a šablón? Počas načítania vkladanej referencie, alebo šablóny sa to jednoducho zruší. Do včerajšku som s tým problémy nemal. --ScholastikosSVK (diskusia) 14:57, 19. jún 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-26

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• There are some new tools to make it easier for newcomers to start editing. They are available on some wikis. These wikis had a problem with the visual editor for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug in the new tools. It was soon fixed. [88]
• Some user scripts and gadgets stopped working because of a change to CSS selectors. .vectorTabs should be replaced with .vector-menu-tabs to fix this. [89]

Changes later this week

• The developers are working on a new interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This will be released on 24 June. You can give feedback. [90]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 June. It will be on all wikis from 25 June (calendar).

Future changes

• A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use TemplateStyles instead. 91 wikis still need to fix this. You can read more and see if your wiki is affected. [91]

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18:48, 22. jún 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-27

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Everyone was logged out. This was because a few users saw the wikis as if they were logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [92]
• Some readers didn't see new edits to pages. If the page had been recently changed they saw an older version of the page instead. This only affected readers who were logged out. It lasted for ten days. It has been fixed. [93]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 July (calendar).

Future changes

• The Modern and Monobook skins use the ID searchGoButton for the go button. This is searchButton for Vector. To have the same ID for all skins it will change to searchButton in Monobook and Modern too. This will affect gadgets and user scripts. It will happen on 23 July. They should be updated to use searchButton. You can read more and see a list of affected scripts.

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16:30, 29. jún 2020 (UTC)

Pridanie osoby

Ahojte,

chcel by som pridat do wikipedie dvoch zaujimavych ludi Martin Kahanec, PhD. a Marta Kahancová, PhD.

Su to ludia ktori maju za sebou mnozstvo odbornych publikacii. Vedeli by ste mi poradit ako na to?

Odporúčam pozrieť toto: Wikipédia:Významnosť (ľudia) --Wizzard (diskusia) 09:41, 3. júl 2020 (UTC)

Odpoveď redaktora Cobroney:

Pekný deň,

Neviem na čo myslíte. Vytvorte si článok (prípadne dva) a napíšte o nich.

Redaktor Cobroney

cobroney05@gmail.com

Tech News: 2020-28

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• The Score extension has been disabled for now. This is because of a security issue. It will work again as soon as the security issue has been fixed. [94]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 July. It will be on all wikis from 9 July (calendar).

Future changes

• Abstract Wikipedia is a new Wikimedia project. It will collect language-independent information that can be easily read in different languages. It builds on Wikidata. The name is preliminary. You can read more. [95]
• The iOS Wikipedia app developers are thinking about new experimental tools. If you use an iPhone you can help them by answering the survey.
• Some rules for user signatures will soon be enforced. Lint errors and invalid HTML will no longer be allowed in user signatures. Nested substitution will not be allowed. A link to your user page, user talk page or user contributions will be required. You can check if your signature works with the new rules. This is because the signatures can cause problems for tools or other text on the page.

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20:17, 6. júl 2020 (UTC)

Ukladanie nedokončených článkov

Dobrý deň, Pracoval som na článku a na druhý deň som chcel pokračovať. No neuložilo sa mi to a tak som musel písať odznova. Máte niekto návod ako uložiť rozrobené články?Ďakujem.

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Editing news 2020 #3

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More than 50 million edits have been made using the visual editor on desktop.

Seven years ago this month, the Editing team offered the visual editor to most Wikipedia editors. Since then, editors have achieved many milestones:

• More than 50 million edits have been made using the visual editor on desktop.
• More than 2 million new articles have been created in the visual editor. More than 600,000 of these new articles were created during 2019.
• The visual editor is increasingly popular. The proportion of all edits made using the visual editor has increased every year since its introduction.
• In 2019, 35% of the edits by newcomers (logged-in editors with ≤99 edits) used the visual editor. This percentage has increased every year.
• Almost 5 million edits on the mobile site have been made with the visual editor. Most of these edits have been made since the Editing team started improving the mobile visual editor in 2018.
• On 17 November 2019, the first edit from outer space was made in the mobile visual editor. 🚀 👩‍🚀
• Editors have made more than 7 million edits in the 2017 wikitext editor, including starting 600,000 new articles in it. The 2017 wikitext editor is VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode. You can enable it in your preferences.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

12:55, 9. júl 2020 (UTC)

Rozhádzané interwiki odkazy

Dnes som si všimol, že interwiki odkazy v článkoch už nie sú zoradené podľa abecedy, ale rozhádzané nejakým pre mňa zvláštnym spôsobom, ktorý je nekonzistentný medzi článkami

Napr. táto stránka má u mňa poradie

• Čeština
• English
• Magyar
• Polski
• Українська
• 中文
• Nederlands
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(61 ďalších)

Inde je čeština na konci a nemčina na začiatku.

Tiež to pozorujete? Ak áno, tušíte, či bola nejaká plánovaná zmena, alebo je to iba rozbité? --Hornokysučan (diskusia) 16:59, 11. júl 2020 (UTC)

Tiež si to všímam. AFAIK to nie je plánované.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 17:52, 11. júl 2020 (UTC)

Niečo sa začalo riešiť na Phabricatore T257625.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 10:25, 13. júl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Users can thank others for their edits. Checkusers can now see user data related to that action. This can help identify sock puppets who harass others using thanks. [96]

Problems

• Everyone was logged out a couple of weeks ago to fix a security problem. The problem was not entirely fixed. Because of this everyone was logged out once again last week. [97][98]

Changes later this week

• Wikis that are not for one specific language can translate pages. Sometimes parts of translations are outdated or missing. Outdated translations are marked with a pink background. Missing translations will also be marked in the future. This markup can sometimes break things. It can soon be disabled by using <translate nowrap></translate> on the source page. [99]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 July. It will be on all wikis from 16 July (calendar).

Future changes

• Wikimedia code review plans to use GitLab. It would be hosted on Wikimedia servers. [100][101][102][103]

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16:29, 13. júl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-30

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. The mobile main page special casing stopped working 14 July. 60 wikis now have main pages that don't work well on mobile. You can see which ones, how to fix it and how to get help in Phabricator. This is the same problem that was reported in Tech News 2020/24 and 2020/26.

Problems

• There is a problem with the interlanguage links. The interlanguage links are the links that help you find a specific page in a different language. The sorting is broken. The developers are working on a solution. [104]
• Some users keep getting the notifications for the same event. Some of these are old events. [105]
• Some users have trouble logging in. This is probably a browser cookie problem. The developers are working on understanding the problem. If you have trouble logging in you can see the details on Phabricator. [106]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 July. It will be on all wikis from 23 July (calendar).

Future changes

• There is a Verzia pre tlač link. This will disappear. That is because web browsers today can create a printable version or show how it will look in print anyway. [107]

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19:13, 20. júl 2020 (UTC)

Mobilné zobrazenie Hlavnej stránky

Zdravím. Doplnil som na Hlavnú stránku štýlovanie, umožňujúce responzívne zobrazenie jej súčasného tabuľkového layoutu [108]. Funguje tak, že pri úzkych viewportoch (typicky mobilná verzia webu, zobrazená na mobile/tablete), mení bunky tabuliek na bežné blokové elementy, takže sa zobrazia pod sebou, namiesto zobrazenia v stĺpcoch a potreby horizontálneho skrolovania, ktoré bez toho dosť znepríjemňovalo čítanie obsahu hlavného stĺpca (bol spravidla o chlp širší než viewport, takže nebolo vidno buď začiatky alebo konce riadkov textu). Je to riešenie, oficiálne odporúčané v [109]. Pokiaľ by ste v súvislosti s tým narazili na nejaký problém, dajte pls. vedieť. --Teslaton (diskusia) 19:50, 20. júl 2020 (UTC)

@Teslaton:Vďaka za vyriešenie problému, bolo to potrebné, HS skwiki na mobiloch bola naozaj nepraktická. Akurát som narazil na niekoľko problémov s novým mobilným zobrazením, plus na niektoré detaily, ktoré samy o sebe nie sú problémom, no vyzerajú zvláštne:

• Problémy:
  • sekcia Ďalšie projekty na konci sa zobrazí tak, že sa najprv pod sebou zobrazia všetky logá, potom pod nimi všetky názvy a až potom pod nimi všetky popisky,
  • obrázok pri Odporúčanom článku je príliš široký, takže text vedľa neho sa zobrazuje tak, že každé písmeno je v novom riadku.
• Ostatné veci:
  • možno by bolo lepšie, keby sa pri všetkách obrázkoch na HS (vrátane toho pri Najlepšom článku, Zaujímavostiach, Denných udalostiach a po novom Aktualitách) text zobrazoval až pod obrázkom, nie okolo neho,
  • prvé riadky v úvodom boxe od Vitajte po každý sú v strede a zarovnané napravo, zvyšný text od Dnes po článkov je vľavo a zarovnaný naľavo. Asi by vyzeralo lepšie, keby to v mobilnom zobrazení bolo všetko zarovnané na stred. Rovnako by sa na stred možno mohli zarovnať aj riadky O Wikipédii.. a Najlepšie články...
  • To môže byť len mnou, no tá stránka pôsobí tak dáko rozhádzane. Ak by sa to tak dalo spraviť, možno by bolo fajn zarovnať nadpisy sekcií Portály, Kategórie, Cudzojazyčné Wikipédie a O Wikipédii v mobilnom zobrazení napravo so súborom Greenbg.png a dať ich rovnako veľkým písmom ako ostatné sekcie, aby spolu ladili. Plus potom príp. aj odstrániť tú medzierku medzi sekciou Obrázok týždňa a Portály.

Spomenuté problémy sa týkajú zobrazenia vo webovom prehliadači Chrome ako aj v aplikácii Wikipédia. --MmichaelDr. (disk., prísp., meta) 15:35, 27. júl 2020 (UTC)

Jasné že pôsobí rozhádzane, je to len brute-force hack. Ako podstatné beriem, že je to lepší stav, než bez neho. Dá sa to určite ďalej ladiť, pre mňa osobne to ale nemá moc vysokú prioritu. Pričom riešiť to treba tak, aby sa to nedotýkalo negatívne desktopového zobrazenia (ideálne vôbec, bez ďalších iterácií získavania konsenzu). --Teslaton (diskusia) 16:14, 27. júl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-31

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Starter kit is now available for wiki communities. This page lists technical resources, tools, and recommendations. These are essential to operate a wiki project. This is mostly useful for smaller wikis where the community has limited experience with this. [110]
• The first features of the Desktop Improvements project are available for logged-in users on all wikis. In order to use them, uncheck Použiť starý Vector in your local or global preferences in section Preferencia témy vzhľadu. More improvements are planned. Feedback is welcome.
• On multiple wikis, a UTCLiveClock gadget is available. For wikis that import the gadget directly from mediawiki.org, end users can now choose a different timezone to show instead of UTC.

Problems

• The deployment train for MediaWiki has been blocked this week. [111][112]
• Translation Notification Bot was sending the same message multiple times to every translator. This has been fixed. [113]
• Some users were receiving the same notification multiple times. This has been fixed. [114]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from July 29. It will be on all wikis from JUly 30 (calendar).

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13:51, 27. júl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-32

Posledné Technické noviny z technickej komunity Wikimedia. Informujte prosím ostatných o týchto zmenách. Nie všetky zmeny sa budú týkať vás. Preklady sú dostupné.

Problémy

• Všetky otázky na službe Wikidata Query zlyhali štvrtok 23. júla medzi 17:50 a 17:59 (UTC). Niektoré otázky zlahávali po dlhšiu dobu. [115]
• Medzijazykové odkazy boli za posledných pár týždňov usporiadné nesprávne. Tento problém bol spomenutý aj v Technických Novinkách spred dvoch týždňov. Problém je teraz vyriešený. [116]
• V globálných nastaveniach je problém s možnosťou "Použiť starý Vector". Vývojari pracujú na jeho oprave. [117]
• Chyba v rozšírení Wikibase znemožnila zamykanie funkciami "presunúť" a "vytvoriť" v hlavnom mennom priestore (Galéria) na Wikimedia Commons. Nebolo možné nastaviť nový zámok a existujúce zámky nefungovali, čo umožnilo presun a vytvorenie niektorých stránok, ktoré nemalo byť možné. Problém je teraz opravený. [118]

Zmeny koncom tohto týždňa

• Prehrávač videí bude jednoduchší a modernejší. Súčastná beta verzia sa tento týždeň stane video prehrávačom pre všetkých na väčšine ne-Wikipedia wikiách. Starý prehrávač bude odstránený. [119]
• Užívateľské global.js a global.css stránky sa budú načítať aj na mobilnom webe. Môžete si prečítať dokumentáciu ako sa vyhnúť používaniu štýlov na mobilný vzhľad. [120]
• Vo vzhľadu MonoBook je starý searchGoButton identifikátor nahradení novým searchButton. Toto môže ovplyvniť CSS a JS zariadenia. Pokyny na migráciu nájdete v T255953. Toto už bolo spomenuté vo vydaní 27.
• Operátori robotov môžu použiť Pywikibota na pravidelné archivovanie diskusií. Správanie robota pri používaní funkcie counter bolo zmenené, aby sa predišlo veľkým archívom. [121]
• Nová verzia MediaWiki bude od 4 augusta testovaná na wiki a MediaWiki.org. Na ne-Wikipedia wikiách a niektorých Wikipédiach bude od 5 augusta. Na všetkých wiki bude od 6 augusta (kalendára).

Technické správy pripravené pisateľmi Technických správ a zverejnené robotom • Prispievajte • Prekladajte • Získajte pomoc • Poskytnite spätnú väzbu • Prihláste sa alebo odhláste sa z odberu.

15:42, 3. august 2020 (UTC)

Nový vzhled Wiki

Dávám na vědomí možnost nového vzhledu Wikipedie > v Špeciálne:Nastavenia#mw-prefsection-rendering si vyškrtněte možnost použití starého vektoru v sekci Preferencia témy vzhľadu.

Měl by to snad být v budoucnu nový vzhled defaultního zobrazení. Je to trochu nezvyk, ale celkem se mi to líbí, resp. viděl jsem tu za svůj život i horší nápady. ---OJJ^✉ 08:55, 7. august 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-33

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• FileImporter and FileExporter became standard features on all Wikis during the first week of August. They help you transfer files from local wikis to Wikimedia Commons with the original file information and history intact. [122]

Problems

• The mobile skin displays a message at the bottom of the page about who edited last. This message showed raw wikitext. This has now been fixed. Some messages in Structured Discussions and content translation may still appear as raw wikitext. Developers are working on it. [123]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 12. It will be on all wikis from August 13 (calendar).

Future changes

• All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 13:30 and 15:30 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [124][125]

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16:06, 10. august 2020 (UTC)

De facto výmaz

Zdravím! Ako riešiť defacto výmaz článku založený niekým iným?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 12:50, 11. august 2020 (UTC)

Z pôvodného článku, ktorý mal {{urgentne upraviť}}, bolo urobené presmerovanie. Článok plesne bude, podľa všetkého, obsahovať ozdrojovaný obsah aj pojmu pleseň. Vasiľ (diskusia) 12:53, 11. august 2020 (UTC)

Presun by bol, pravdaže, o dosť viac kóšer.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 13:47, 11. august 2020 (UTC)

Vzhľadom k tomu, že pôvodný článok bol mnou daný na urgent kvôli svojmu obsahu, tak presunúť veľmi nebolo čo. Vasiľ (diskusia) 14:48, 11. august 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-34

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• If you revert an edit using the undo link your edit is marked with an undo tag. This will now only happen if you don't change anything in the edit window before publishing the undo. This is to keep users from marking edits as undos when they actually do something else. [126]
• The new OOUI version will not work with Internet Explorer 8. This means the wikis will look strange and not work well in Internet Explorer 8. This was reported in Tech/News/2020/17. This is because keeping the wikis working with very old browsers creates other problems. [127]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 August. It will be on all wikis from 20 August (calendar).

Future changes

• All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 13:30 and 15:30 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis next week. This is a reminder. You can help by translating the announcement message. [128][129]

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20:41, 17. august 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-35

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 August. It will be on all wikis from 27 August (calendar).

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17:59, 24. august 2020 (UTC)

Vymazanie obrázku

Dobrý deň, je to veľmi dôležité, prosím potrebujem pomôcť s vymazaním obrázku, ktorý som nahodila bez povolenia osoby na obrázku do Wikipédie. Už som úplne bezradná, vedel by mi niekto pomôcť s tým, prípadne vymazať to za mňa? Nie som IT zdatná. Budem veľmi vďačná.

Tech News: 2020-36

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• This is a reminder. All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 14:00 and 15:00 UTC. Please check on the details on the announcement message. [130][131]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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20:10, 31. august 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-37

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• Normally pages can be moved to a title that has no existing page yet or to a page that has only one revision, which is a redirect to the page to be moved. A new user right allows editors to move pages over one-revision pages that redirect to anywhere. [132]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 September. It will be on all wikis from 10 September (calendar).
• All MediaWiki API modules will now use watchlist instead of watch. This was inconsistent before. [133]

Future changes

• The Wikipedia Android app team might work on patrolling tools in the future. You can let them know what tools would be useful for you or for less experienced patrollers. See the page on mediawiki.org.
• OTRS will be updated to a new version. This will probably take around two days. OTRS agents will not have access to the system during these days. Emails that come in during the update will be delivered when the update is done. The plan is to start around 08:00 UTC on 14 September. This could change. [134]
• The Wikipedia Android app will send push notifications if users want them. This could help you see for example when someone wrote on your talk page or your edit was reverted. This will need Google Play Services to work. It will also be possible to get the app without Google Play Services but push notifications will not work. Google Play Services is also used to make the app work for Android 4.4 users. [135][136]
• Wikimedia code review could move to GitLab. It would be hosted on Wikimedia servers. You can take part in the consultation.
• Dropdown menus in the Vector skin use a .menu class. This will not work in the future. Scripts can use nav ul instead. .vectorTabs and .vectorMenu will also not work. Some scripts need to be updated. You can read more in Phabricator.

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15:59, 7. september 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-38

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• The Wikipedia apps briefly showed pages without CSS last week. This meant they looked wrong. It was quickly fixed but cached pages without CSS were shown for a few hours. [137][138]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 September. It will be on all wikis from 17 September (calendar).

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16:19, 14. september 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-39

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There is a new tag for reverted edits. For example you can see it in the recent changes feed or in the article history. It is added to edits when they have been undone, rollbacked or manually reverted to an older version of the page. [139][140]

Changes later this week

• The number of times you can do something in a period of time on wiki is limited. This could be the number of edits per minute or the number of users you email in a day. Some users are not affected by all limits because of their user rights. They could soon see the limit even if it does not affect them. [141]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 September. It will be on all wikis from 24 September (calendar).

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21:27, 21. september 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-40

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Admins can now see links to diffs of deleted revisions on Special:AbuseLog. This uses the interface of Special:Undelete. [142]
• Editors are automatically added to some user groups. For example editors are added to autoconfirmed users when they have edited enough times and long enough. Abuse filters can hinder users from automatically getting user rights for a period of time. They can also remove rights user have. Wikis can now ask to change how long this period of time is for their wiki in Phabricator. It is currently five days. [143]

Problems

• Last year some abuse filters stopped working because of a new change. If they tried to use variables that were unavailable for that action they would fail. This has now been fixed. [144]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 September. It will be on all wikis from 1 October (calendar).

Future changes

• You can't see the language links to other language versions from the talk page or history page. They are also not shown when you edit an article. This could change. It is not decided if for example the history page should link to another history page or to the article. You can take part in the discussion in Phabricator.
• The link colours could change. This is to make the difference between links and other text more clear. You can read more in Phabricator.
• In your preferences you can choose to get different notifications on the web or by email. You will see Apps as one of the alternatives later this week. This is because the Android and iOS Wikipedia apps will use push notifications for those who want them. You can see the preferences on the test wiki. The goal is to have push notifications on Android in October and on iOS in early 2021. [145]
• You can soon put pages on your watchlist for a limited time. This could be useful if you want to watch something for a shorter time but don't want it on your watchlist forever. It now works on mediawiki.org and will come to more wikis later. You can read more and see when it will come to other wikis.
• You can see what Wikimedians think are the best new technical tools this year. You can also nominate them.

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21:24, 28. september 2020 (UTC)

Použitie iba jedného pomenovania používateľov

Zdravím (po dlhšej dobe, ale to nevadí),

Určite vieme, že dnes existujú 2 názvy prispievateľov - Redaktor a Užívateľ. Aj keď sa zdá, Redaktor používa iba Wikipédia, nie je to tak. Redaktor je totiž na TranslateWiki označený ako Redaktor, tj. každý Wiki projekt mimo Wikipédie bude používať prefix Redaktor. Na druhú stranu, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/MW/browse/master/languages/messages/MessagesSk.php používa Užívateľ. Takže, teraz nastáva otázka. Aký názov uprednostiť? Mali by sa všetci volať Užívatelia/Používatelia? Alebo Redaktori?

Dobre. Koniec vysvetlenia, teraz asi by bolo dobré hlasovať. Ide o dosť veľkú zmenu, preto by som dal tomu čas aj mesiac. Možnosti:

1. Používať na každej Wiki Redaktor
2. Používať na každej Wiki Užívateľ alebo Používateľ (to by sa určite diskutovalo)
3. Nemeniť to vôbec

--aRychlik (d - p) 12:11, 4. október 2020 (UTC)

Ja som osobne Za 1. možnosť. Už viac meniť to netreba --aRychlik (d - p) 12:11, 4. október 2020 (UTC)

Reťazec [146] je k rozšíreniu Flagged Revisions a je z roku 2007, nebral by som to ako niečo smerodajné. Tradične sa pokiaľ viem pre prispievajúceho v základe MW používa neutrálny tvar „user“ (ktorého spisovný sk ekvivalent je „používateľ“), pretože sw. nemusí byť nutne nasádzaný len na projektoch, kde je tvorba a redigovanie obsahu primárna aktivita. Tzn. osobne by som do toho nekafral a substitúciu tvaru „redaktor“ ponechal na miestnych lokalizačných reťazcoch tu na Wikipédii [147]. --Teslaton (diskusia) 20:25, 4. október 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There is a new tool where you can see which home wiki users have in discussions on Meta. This can help show which communities are not part of the discussion on wikis where we make decisions that affect many other wikis.
• You can now thank users for file uploads or for changing the language of a page. [148]

Problems

• There were many errors with the new MediaWiki version last week. The new version was rolled back. Updates that should have happened last week are late. [149]
• Everyone was logged out. This was because a user reported being logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [150]
• Many pages have JavaScript errors. You can read more and now see a list of user scripts with errors.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 October. It will be on all wikis from 8 October (calendar).
• Letters immediately after a link are shown as part of the link. For example the entire word in [[Child]]ren is linked. On Arabic wikis this works at both the start and end of a word. Previously on Arabic wikis numbers and other non-letter Unicode characters were shown as part of the link at the start of a word but not at the end. Now only Latin and Arabic letters will extend links on Arabic wikis. [151]

Future changes

• You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on 27 October around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [152]

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16:24, 5. október 2020 (UTC)

Kategória

V článkoch sa začala objavovať kategória : Pages with non-numeric formatnum arguments, nevie niekto, čo to je a ako to opraviť? --2A02:AB04:27BD:D900:955:1473:96B3:880B 12:43, 11. október 2020 (UTC)

Ďalšia z X trackovacích kategórií, ako minimum ich stačí zakladať so š. {{Skrytá kategória}} s vysvetlením a ďalšími náležitosti (kat., iw.). Systematické poslovenčovanie ich názvov mi už príde ako zbytočná robota, bežný čitateľ sa s tým normálne nestretne.

Čo sa týka tejto, indikuje to volania parser funkcie {{formatnum}} s inou než číselnou hodnotou. Ako nečíselná hodnota sa buhužiaľ berie aj číslo v slovenskom zápise s desatinnou čiarkou namiesto bodky, takže napr. bežné volania ako {{kg|49,5}} (priame alebo cez šablónu, ktorá ďalej volá formatnum, vrátane mnohých infoboxov) spôsobujú radenie dotknutých článkov do tejto kat.

A btw. keď už niečo takéto reportuješ, aspoň tú minimálnu námahu by si si mohol dať a nalinkovať tú kat., nech si to nemusí každý čítajúci copy&pastovať a dohľadávať. --Teslaton (diskusia) 18:08, 11. október 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-42

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Problems

• Because of the problems with the MediaWiki version two weeks ago last week's updates are also late. [153][154][155]

Changes later this week

• Live previews didn't show the templates used in the preview if you just edited a section. This has now been fixed. You can also test CSS and JavaScript pages even if you have the live preview enabled. Previously this didn't work well. [156][157]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 October. It will be on all wikis from 15 October (calendar).

Future changes

• A new stable version of Pywikibot is coming soon. [158]

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15:24, 12. október 2020 (UTC)

Kostol Nanebovzatia Panny Márie (Ľubica)

Ahoj, článek Kostol Nanebovzatia Panny Márie (Ľubica), který vznikl v rámci kurzu Dějiny architektury II - LS 2020 zůstal ve slovenštině na slovenském pískoviši studenta. Přesunul jsem do Hlavného menného priestoru. Následně jsem článek přeložil do češtiny pomocí nástrojů projektu Česko-Slovenské Wikipedie. Mám dva dotazy resp. prosby:

1. Poloha v rámci kraja v infoboxu: zobrazuje se chybová hláška, se kterou si nevím rady. Prosím o případnou opravu, Opravené
2. Původní studentovo pískoviště bych doporučoval smazat, ale nevím, jaké jsou v tomto u vás zvyklosti.

Zdraví --Gampe (diskusia) 12:41, 16. október 2020 (UTC)

Mapu som fixol, zvyšok nechám na adminov. --peko (diskusia) 12:45, 16. október 2020 (UTC)

 Hotovo!@Cyriak144: Pieskovisko som vymazal. Vďaka.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 13:46, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Co tak oslovit cirkev?--188.167.14.28 (diskusia) sa nepodpísal(a)

Šablóna Pozri

@2A02:AB04:27BD:D900:FD8E:3828:F8BC:908: Zdravím! Prečo v článku Ladislav Ballek (diplomat) alebo Ladislav Ballek nie je dobré použiť šablónu {{pozri}} ako napríklad tu? Zatiaľ nie je rozlišovačka, ale pravdepodobne ani nemusí byť kedže ide len o dva články. Chcel by som vysvetlenie, nie "pozri si ostatné články". Ako sa k tomu stavajú ostatní? Z môjho pohľadu je dobré tam šablónu dať, v prípade chyby človek rovno nalinkuje na správny článok.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 13:44, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Po toľkých rokoch a stále tomu nechápeš, to o niečom svedčí. Nemám čas to niekomu stále vysvetľovať.--2A02:AB04:27BD:D900:FD8E:3828:F8BC:908 13:55, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Resp.: myslí si niekto iný, že by sa mohla šablóna v týchto prípadoch používať? Sú tu aj články so zátvorkou kde sa šablóna (opodstatnene) vyskytuje, napr. Lysák (prírodná rezervácia). Aj keď sa dá predpokladať, že odtiaľ bude bez mihnutia oka a bez ukončenia diskusie vyhodená. ;) Šablóna mi príde opodstatnená hlavne v prípadoch kde nie je rozlišovačka. Čitateľ nemá link na iné významy.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 14:05, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Mimochodom, špecifikácia šablóny o limitoch použitia nehovorí.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 14:12, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Zato Kategória:Šablóny na rozlíšenie významov mi dáva za pravdu: "Ak existujú len dva významy použijeme šablónu {{pozri}}, kde prvým parametrom je O čom je odkazovaný význam a druhým je názov odkazovanej stránky.", presne ako bolo v prípade Ladislav Ballek a koniec koncov aj v prípade Lysák. Stále však nevidím dôvod prečo by aj v prípade existencie rozlišovačky s dvomi významami nemohla existovať táto šablóna. Vďaka za vysvetlenie.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 14:26, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Nebola bez mihnutia oka vyhodená, ale až po vytvorení rozlišovačky, a nahradení wikilinkov.--2A02:AB04:27BD:D900:FD8E:3828:F8BC:908 14:20, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Pred ukončením debaty, pravdaže.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 14:26, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Ukončením debaty z tvojej strany znova o ničom, ktorá sa už niekedy, niekde riešila.--2A02:AB04:27BD:D900:FD8E:3828:F8BC:908 14:31, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Dovysvetlím ešte. Pozerám si článok Ladislav Ballek a v stave bez šablóny ani neviem, že by mohol existovať nejaký menovec. Ak si pozerám článok Ladislav Ballek (diplomat) tiež nemusím vedieť, že existuje menovec. My, ktorí sme na Wikipédii už dlhšie si môžme uvedomiť, že zátvorka v názve článku (resp. URL) indikuje, že by mohol mať menovca. Ale to sme my, čitatelia nemusia o tom vôbec vedieť. Druhá vec je, že so šablónou {{pozri}} mám oveľa viacej informácií: jednak viem, že menovec je spisovateľ a druhak viem, že článok k nemu existuje a môžem na neho kliknúť. A to je ďalšia vec: ušetrí mi cestu cez rozlišovačku čím ušetrím čas, možno dáta. Ak som si aj istý, že článok menovca existuje, ako sa k nemu dostanem? Na počítači je to celkom jasné: vymažem z URL zátvorku, dostanem sa buď na rozlišovačku, alebo priamo na článok. Na telefóne/tablete je to celkom zdĺhavé. Ale existuje aj jednoduchšia cesta: kliknúť priamo na link a ide sa. Je to praktické a jednoduché. Treba myslieť na to, že tvoríme nie pre seba, ale pre čitateľov, ktorí nepoznajú náš systém a ani s ním nie sú zžití. Preto si myslím, že by sme mali zmeniť spôsoby použiatia týchto šablón. Ak sme to aj roky robili inak nie je to argument proti zmene.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 14:53, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Nesúhlasím, že ty niečomu nechápeš je tvoj problém. --2A02:AB04:27BD:D900:FD8E:3828:F8BC:908 15:00, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Či dávať aj do konkrétnych tvarov rozlíšených zátvorkou prelinkovanie späť na rozlišovačku (alebo teda tvar bez zátvorky pri riešení bez rozlišovačky) je zrejme vecou dohody. Na časti wiki (vrátane skwiki) je zaužívané nerobiť to, na inej časti sa to robí, viď napr. fr:Pavel Novotný (football) alebo pl:Pavel Novotný (piłkarz). Z usability hľadiska to podľa mňa svoj význam má, pretože keď sa z akéhokoľvek dôvodu dostanem na konkrétny článok, mám k dispozícii štandardnú navigačnú cestu na ostatné rovnomenné tvary, bez nutnosti šaškovať s editáciou URL alebo znova vyhľadávať. --Teslaton (diskusia) 16:09, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

To bude zas zahnojený úvod článku, nestačí že už teraz je v niektorých veľká zbytočná šablóna. --2A02:AB04:27BD:D900:E463:68B3:ECB5:45BB 17:36, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Len aby tu zaznel ďalší názor, pri dvoch článkoch je rozlišovačka zbytočná a súhlasím s argumentami za použitie šablóny. Daevid (diskusia) 20:39, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

Nesúhlasím s paušálnym tvrdením, že by bola RS pri dvoch významoch automaticky zbytočná. Ak aj odhliadnem od toho, že časom môžu pribudnúť ďalšie významy, núti to vysúvať jeden z tých dvoch ako primárny (bez zátvorky), čo je v mnohých prípadoch umelé a subjektívne. Rozlišovačka a dva zátvorkové tvary je neutrálnejšie riešenie. --Teslaton (diskusia) 20:47, 17. október 2020 (UTC)

RS je v takomto prípade čistejšie a neutrálnejšie riešenie. Vasiľ (diskusia) 20:12, 19. október 2020 (UTC)

Myslím, že či je rozlišovačka potrebná je trochu iná téma. Dokončme tému uvádzania pozri aj, potom sa môžme vrhnúť na ňu. Zatiaľ to vyzerá na prevažovanie preferencie uvádzania pozri aj alebo linku na rozlišovačku.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 10:58, 20. október 2020 (UTC)

Zatiaľ ide o nezáväznú debatu pár účastníkov, „prevažujúca preferencia“ vyzerala napr. takto (a napriek tomu ju odvtedy veselo opakovane sabotuješ potom čo si si účelovo zabezpečil jej formálnu nezáväznosť, akonáhle ti črtajúci sa outcome subjektívne nevyhovoval :) --Teslaton (diskusia) 15:03, 20. október 2020 (UTC)

Z takýchto debát vzniká konsenzus a rozhodnutia. Úzus o nepridávaní šablóny možno nevznikol ani len debatou. Inak nerozumiem prečo linkuješ onú diskusiu z roku 2014, veď stav sa nezmenil, pokračuje sa v prechyľovaní rovnako ako sa prechyľovalo aj predtým. A ak niečo niekto zedituje v súlade so zdrojmi a s PSP ale proti jazykovému tímu tak je to promptne revertnuté a strážené posledným klikom bez žiadnych ohľadov. Sabotovanie je skôr vyžadovanie prekročenia vysokého prahu pre zavedenie noviniek ako neprechyľovanie alebo aj zmysluplných šablón v porovnaní so zavedením týchto pravidiel a zvyklostí.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 15:47, 22. október 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-43

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 October. It will be on all wikis from 22 October (calendar).

Future changes

• You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on 27 October around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [159]
• In the AbuseFilter extension, the rmspecials() function will be updated soon so that it does not remove the "space" character. Wikis are advised to wrap all the uses of rmspecials() with rmwhitespace() wherever necessary to keep filters' behavior unchanged. You can use the search function on Special:AbuseFilter to locate its usage. [160]
• Some gadgets and user-scripts use the HTML div with the ID #jump-to-nav. This div will be removed soon. Maintainers should replace these uses with either #siteSub or #mw-content-text. A list of affected scripts is at the top of phab:T265373.

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16:31, 19. október 2020 (UTC)

Šablóna: Graf počtu prípadov epidémie

Dobrý večer, vytvoril som podľa anglickej a českej wiki moduly a šablóny, aby sa dali vytvárať grafy počtu prípadov, úmrtí a vyzdravení epidémie alebo pandémi. Všetko funguje, len namiesto toho, aby mesiace boli v riadku sú vypísané pod sebou, takže to nevyzerá pekne. Vedel by sa na to niekto pozrieť? Šablóna s grafom je Šablóna:Dáta pandémie koronavírusu SARS-CoV-2/Slovenská republika, šablóna pomocou ktorej sa graf vytvára je Šablóna:Graf počtu prípadov epidémie a jej modul Modul:Medical cases chart. Ďakujem -Matroxko 💬 ✒️ 16:07, 20. október 2020 (UTC)

 Hotovo! [161] --Teslaton (diskusia) 16:40, 20. október 2020 (UTC)

@Matroxko: Len ešte názov šablóny s konkrétnym grafom pre účely toho „(z·d·u)“ záhlavia tam nepočítaš správne resp. nekorešponduje s tvarom názvu tej konkrétnej šablóny. Na enwiki tam majú:

local navbartitle = args.outbreak .. ' data/' ..
    (args.location3 and args.location3 .. '/' or '') ..
    (args.location2 and args.location2 .. '/' or '') ..
    location .. ' medical cases chart'

čo pre disease=COVID-19 | location=South Korea | outbreak=COVID-19 pandemic dáva „COVID-19 pandemic data/South Korea medical cases chart“ a tak je potom pomenovaná konkrétna š. (en:Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/South Korea medical cases chart), na ktorú smerujú tie linky zo záhlavia grafu. Tu si si ten výpočet navbartitle upravil, no výsledok s pomenovaním š. (Šablóna:Dáta pandémie koronavírusu SARS-CoV-2/Slovenská republika nekorešponduje. --Teslaton (diskusia) 16:58, 20. október 2020 (UTC)

Ok, modul si bral zrejme z cswiki, v tom prípade to potrebuje dostať explicitne názov konkrétnej š. cez navbartitle [162]. Ten enwiki prístup je ale krajší v tom, že vynucuje konzistentnú štruktúru nazývania jednotlivých konkrétnych šablón. --Teslaton (diskusia) 17:14, 20. október 2020 (UTC)

Ďakujem pekne za pomoc. Snažil som sa pri kopírovaní tých šablón a modulov cez to rýchlo prejsť, ale som si to nevšimol. -Matroxko 💬 ✒️ 21:09, 20. október 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-44

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Problems

• You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on October 27 around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [163]
• Last week, links to "diffs" from mobile watchlists and recentchanges were linking to page-revisions instead of diffs. This has now been fixed. [164]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• Since the introduction of the interface administrators user group in 2018, administrators couldn’t view the deleted history of CSS/JS pages. Now they can. [165]
• There was a problem with the Change Tags. The software would apply the "vrátené" tag to any page actions such as page-protection changes if they came directly after a reverted edit. This has now been fixed for new edits. [166]
• The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias in November. Another announcement will be made once the date is finalized. [167]

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17:38, 26. október 2020 (UTC)

AbuseFilter notice: rmspecials() will no longer remove whitespace when used in filters

Dobrý den,

Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Pomôžte prosím s prekladom do svojho jazyka.

We are making a change to the AbuseFilter extension, which may impact the behavior of some existing filters. The rmspecials() function currently removes spaces in addition to special characters. We will change it such that it will only remove special characters. The existing rmwhitespace() can be used to remove spaces whenever applicable.

As reported on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P12854 we believe at least one filter on your wiki has been identified to use the rmspecials() function. Please consider updating these filters by wrapping rmspecials() inside rmwhitespace() like this: rmwhitespace(rmspecials(....))

We need you to update the relevant filters within 2 weeks of this notice. If one of the community members with proper access is volunteering to take this on, we ask them to please respond below and notify User:Huji in their response or in the edit summary. If we don't hear back from you within 2 weeks, Huji will edit the relevant filters on your wiki per the global abuse filter maintainer policy, to ensure the filters won't break once the change is implemented. Thank you for your consideration!

Best regards,

--User:Huji (diskusia) 23:48, 26. október 2020 (UTC), sent via MediaWiki message delivery

Mapa v geoboxe

Ahoj, v článku Veterný mlyn (Holíč) sa chybne zobrazuje poloha miesta v mape v geoboxe. Kde robím chybu? --Michalkralovic (diskusia) 07:27, 30. október 2020 (UTC)

@Michalkralovic: Upravil som [168], čo sa týka zobrazenia polohy, nebol tam správny lokátor kraja. Pokiaľ je ale možné, nezakladaj pls. články s Geoboxom cez vizuálny editor, vloží to tam šablónu v ťažko editovateľnej forme (pre redaktorov editujúcich zdrojový kód). Infoboxové šablóny je lepšie vkladať cez editor zdrojáku, copy&pastnutím a následným vyplnením vzoru šablóny z dokumentácie. --Teslaton (diskusia) 09:51, 30. október 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-45

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser uses very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It could lead to downgrade attacks. Since October 29, 2020, users who use old TLS versions will not be able to connect to Wikimedia projects. A list of browser recommendations is available. All modern operating systems and browsers are always able to reach Wikimedia projects. [169]
• There is a new automatic tracking category available: Pages with non-numeric formatnum arguments. It collects pages which use the {{formatnum}} parser function with invalid (non-numeric) input, e.g. {{formatnum:TECHNEWS}}. Note that {{formatnum:123,456}} is also invalid input: as described in the documentation, the argument should be unformatted so that it can be reliably and correctly localised. The tracking category will help identify problematic usage and double-formatting. The new tracking category's name can be translated at translatewiki. [170]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 4. It will be on all wikis from November 5 (calendar).
• Administrators and stewards will be able to use a special page (Special:CreateLocalAccount) to force local account creation for a global account. This is useful when account creation is blocked for that user (by a block or a filter). [171]
• The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias on November 4. This change excludes the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias, plus a few smaller Wikipedias with special circumstances. You can read the help page and the troubleshooting guide for more information. [172]

Future changes

• A discussion has been restarted about using a Unicode minus sign (− U+2212) in the output of {{formatnum}} when it is given a negative argument. [173]
• In the future IP addresses of unregistered users will not be shown for everyone. They will get an alias instead. There will be a new user right or an opt-in function for more vandal fighters to see the IPs of unregistered users. There would be some criteria for who gets the user right or opt-in. There will also be other new tools to help handle vandalism. This is early in the process and the developers are still collecting information from the communities before they suggest solutions.

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16:09, 2. november 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• You can see reference previews. This shows a preview of the footnote when you hover over it. This has been a beta feature. It will move out of beta and be enabled by default. There will be an option not to use it. The developers are looking for small or medium-sized wikis to be the first ones. You can let them know if your wiki is interested. [174]
• From November 16 the categories will not be sorted in order for a short time. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the internationalisation library. They will use a script to fix the existing categories. This can take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [175][176]

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15:50, 9. november 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a library. For a brief period on 16 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for most languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [177][178]

Changes later this week

• If you merged two pages in a namespace where pages can't redirect this used to break the merge history. This will now be fixed. [179]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 November. It will be on all wikis from 19 November (calendar).

Future changes

• The Community Wishlist Survey is now open for proposals. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 16 to 30 November. You can vote on proposals from 8 December to 21 December.

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15:37, 16. november 2020 (UTC)

Referencie stránky Pink Floyd

Zdravím. Na stránke Pink Floyd v časti Referencie zobrazuje jeden a pol stĺpca len text chyby: Chyba citácie Značka ref v references má atribút skupiny „“, ktorý sa v predošlom texte nevyskytuje. Vedel by to niekto opraviť? Pozrel som sa na kód stánky a posledná referencia v texte je 265. referencia v 3. stĺpci. Po nej nasledujú už len chyby. - Matroxko 💬 ✒️ 18:12, 17. november 2020 (UTC)

 Hotovo! [180] --Teslaton (diskusia) 19:33, 17. november 2020 (UTC)

Ďakujem bojars 17:20, 18. november 2020 (UTC)

Strojová úprava nečíselnej hodnoty parametra

Šablónu {{Infobox Potok}} som upravil tak, aby používala generickú šablónu {{Geobox}}. V pôvodnej šablóne boli číselné hodnoty zadávané s desatinnou čiarkou, resp. v prípade chýbajúcej hodnoty bol použitý otáznik, geobox používa bodku. Čo robí problém pri prepočtoch z km² na ha a v zobrazení generuje chybovú hlášku Chyba výrazu: Nerozpoznané diakritické znamienko „,“. Vie to prosím niekto strojovo upraviť? Vďaka. --peko (diskusia) 13:03, 19. november 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-48

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Timestamps in Special:Log are now links. They go to Special:Log for only that entry. This is how timestamps work on for example the history page. [181]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• The Wikimedia Cloud VPS hosts technical projects for the Wikimedia movement. Developers need to claim projects they use. This is because old and unused projects are removed once a year. Unclaimed projects can be shut down from 1 December. Unclaimed projects can be deleted from 1 January. [182]

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17:19, 23. november 2020 (UTC)

Infobox rád

Zdravím, nedávno som začal pracovať na Infoboxe rád na svojom pieskovisku. Vychádzal som zo šablón Infobox řád, Infobox order a Infobox Organizácia. Rozhodol som sa urobiť šablónu predovšetkým pre rehoľné rády (rozumej: mníšske rády, rytierske rády, žobravé rády a moderné rehole). Všimol som si absenciu tejto šablóny na našej Wiki. V niektorých článkoch je použitá tabuľka alebo šablóna Organizácia. Nebudem vkladať túto šablónu sem ale nechám ju v mojom pieskovisku kde si ju môžete pozrieť vizuálne ale aj v zdrojáku. Bol by som rád ak by ste mi poskytli nejakú spätnú väzbu, kritiku a pripomienky čo zmeniť, nechať alebo doplniť. Prípadne nejaké technické rady a odporúčania. Po spoločnej dohode by som ju rád uverejnil. Preto prosím aby sa vyjadrilo najväčšie množstvo redaktorov. Budem rád aj za nápady ako tú šablónu doplniť. Ďakujem. Róbert Jahoda (diskusia) 09:46, 30. november 2020 (UTC)

Vďaka za prácu. Nemali by vznik a zánik byť pri sebe?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 11:06, 30. november 2020 (UTC)

Možno by nebolo na škodu ťahať niektoré položky z Wikidata, minimálne erb, (stužka, vlajka ak sú), dátumy, názvy. Samozrejme s možnosťou prepisu zadaním hodnôt. Zároveň by to mohlo pomôcť Wikiúdajom, ale to je už len side-effect. Ale keďže len málo infoboxov na skwiki podporuje takúto funkcionalitu, nepovažujem to za dôležité. --KasciJ 11:19, 30. november 2020 (UTC)

Dobrá pripomienka. Z Wikidát by sme mali ťahať, budúcnosť sa presúva tam. Na cs.wiki ťahajú z WD všetko, na cs.wiki v ib nie je nič...--Jetam2 (diskusia) 12:15, 30. november 2020 (UTC)

To je na dlhšiu debatu, nakoľko je to skutočne žiadúci stav, má to nateraz stále aj dosť zádrheľov (zdrojovanie, konzistencia, udržiavanie, dohľad, titulky na strane WD; formátovanie na strane wiki; integrácia tak, aby bolo bežnému použ. zrejmé, odkiaľ pochádza ktorý údaj a kde sa dá prípadne upraviť). Nateraz by som sa uspokojil s tým preberaním obr. --Teslaton (diskusia) 12:48, 30. november 2020 (UTC)

@Jetam2: ďakujem za upozornenie. Dám ten vznik a zánik k sebe. Čo sa týka tých informácii z WD by bolo možno dobré riešenie ale je tu jedno ale. Súhlasim s Teslatonom že nateraz je to na dlhšiu debatu a má to aj svoje chybičky krásy. Preberanie obrázkov, erbov alebo vlajok by som prijal. Róbert Jahoda (diskusia) 17:22, 30. november 2020 (UTC)

Súhlas, chcelo by to prediskutovať globálnejšie a či máme na to kapacity.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 19:12, 30. november 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-49

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 December. It will be on all wikis from 3 December (calendar).

Future changes

• The iOS Wikipedia app will show readers more of the article history. They can see new updates and easier see how the article has changed over time. This is an experiment. It will first be shown only to some iOS app users as a test. [183][184]
• The Wiki Replicas can be used for SQL queries. You can use Quarry, PAWS or other ways to do this. To make the Wiki Replicas stable there will be two changes. Cross-database JOINS will no longer work. You can also only query a database if you connect to it directly. This will happen in February 2021. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech. [185]

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17:44, 30. november 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-50

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now put pages on your watchlist for a limited period of time. Some wikis already had this function. [186][187]

Changes later this week

• Information from Wikidata that is used on a wiki page can be shown in recent changes and watchlists on a Wikimedia wiki. To see this you need to turn on showing Wikidata edits in your watchlist in the preferences. Changes to the Wikidata description in the language of a Wikimedia wiki will then be shown in recent changes and watchlists. This will not show edits to languages that are not relevant to your wiki. [188][189]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 December. It will be on all wikis from 10 December (calendar).

Future changes

• You can vote on proposals in the Community Wishlist Survey between 8 December and 21 December. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on.

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16:14, 7. december 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-51

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There is a Wikipedia app for KaiOS phones. It was released in India in September. It can now be downloaded in other countries too. [190]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 December. It will be on all wikis from 17 December (calendar).

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21:34, 14. december 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-52

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

• Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 11 January 2021.

Recent changes

• The {{citation needed}} template shows when a statement in a Wikipedia article needs a source. If you click on it when you edit with the visual editor there is a popup that explains this. Now it can also show the reason and when it was added. [191]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week.

Future changes

• You can propose and discuss what technical improvements should be done for geographic information. This could be coordinates, maps or other related things.
• Some wikis use LanguageConverter to switch between writing systems or variants of a language. This can only be done for the entire page. There will be a <langconvert> tag that can convert a piece of text on a page. [192]
• Oversighters and stewards can hide entries in Special:AbuseLog. They can soon hide multiple entries at once using checkboxes. This works like hiding normal edits. It will happen in early January. [193]

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20:53, 21. december 2020 (UTC)