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Archív technických tém[upraviť zdroj]

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WikiCitátor: knižné citácie aj cez katalóg SNK[upraviť zdroj]

Ahojte. Jedna aktualizácia pre tých, čo používajú WikiCitátor (nástroj alebo webovú verziu). K doterajšiemu generovaniu knižných citácií cez Google Books som pridal aj podporu generovania cez slovenský knižničný katalóg kis3g.sk (SNK/UKB/...). Pre slovenské a české publikácie je presnejší a s výrazne lepším pokrytím než Google Books.

Publikácia sa dá odkázať štandardne buď cez jej ISBN alebo (ak ide napr. o staršie dielo bez ISBN) cez URL na jej katalógovú položku na kis3g.sk:

príklad

Pre protokol: výstupy treba bať ako základ na prípadné doladenie. V netriviálnych prípadoch (forma uvádzania podtitulov/vedľajších titulov; rôzne kombinácie rolí tvorcov – autori, zostavovatelia, editori a pod.; atypické označenia vydaní; atď.) nástroj automaticky nevytvorí citáciu nutne v podobe, ako by ju ručne zostavil citačný purista. --Teslaton (diskusia) 19:54, 13. marec 2017 (UTC)

Vďaka, to určite využijem (minimálne ako základ, ktorý ručne možno doplniť). Vasiľ (diskusia) 15:57, 14. marec 2017 (UTC)

Plus ešte citácie zo Zbierky zákonov cez slov-lex.sk: príklad Z. z. --Teslaton (diskusia) 18:29, 14. marec 2017 (UTC)

Drobnosť s poznámkou[upraviť zdroj]

Zdravím, v šablóne Obce s významnou rómskou populáciou na Slovensku som pridal poznámku, ktorá sa ale z nejaké dôvodu nezobrazuje. Vedel by to niekto fixnúť, prosím? Ďakujem pekne :) Carter 07 (diskusia) 17:56, 17. marec 2017 (UTC)

@Carter 07: Kód som fixol [1], bolo by ale treba explicitný spoľahlivý zdroj na ten zoznam aj názov ("Rómske obce a mestské časti"), toto nestačí. --Teslaton (diskusia) 18:03, 17. marec 2017 (UTC)
Na toto som už viac-menej odpovedal v diskusii u Kelovyho, tiež som to už raz riešil, keď som bez zjavných referencií pridával k niektorým obciam národnostné zloženia pre jednotlivé roky. Spoľahlivé zdroje sa nachádzajú v mojom laptope, keďže ale nie sú len tak dostupné na internete, ale ja nimi disponujem na vyžiadanie od Štatistického úradu, tak nemám potuchy, ako by som ich mohol uviesť ako zdroje. Ak nejaká cesta je, rád sa nechám poučiť. Carter 07 (diskusia) 18:07, 17. marec 2017 (UTC)
Nie, spoľahlivý zdroj "by def" nie je niečo na tvojom laptope. Musí ísť o citáciu zákona, ktorý definuje dvojjazyčné obce. Ak by tam bolo uvedené, že sa nimi stávajú automaticky po prekročení percentuálnej hranice napr. v oficiálnych údajoch o počete obyvateľov za uplynulý rok, dalo by sa vychádzať z údajov ŠÚ. Ak sú tam ale uvádzané taxatívne, je ŠÚ irelevantný a platí len to, čo je v aktuálne platnom znení dotyčného zákona. --Teslaton (diskusia) 18:12, 17. marec 2017 (UTC)
Jasné, rozumiem. Čiže to, čo riešime v tej druhej diskusii. Ale ešte mám technickú otázku - v prípade, že naozaj stačí len dosiahnutie tej 20-percentnej hranice, ako by som potom odcitoval štatistiky priamo vo wikičlánku? Len by som do referencii ručne dopísal niečo v zmysle "Sčítanie obyvateľstva za rok 2011" bez nejakého URL linku? Alebo ako by sa to riešilo? Carter 07 (diskusia) 18:21, 17. marec 2017 (UTC)
Môžeš použiť citáciu oficiálnej stránky sčítania:
resp. URL môže podľa potreby odkazovať aj konkrétny zdroj (dátovú tabuľku), pokiaľ je zmysluplne odkazovateľná. --Teslaton (diskusia) 18:27, 17. marec 2017 (UTC)
Ďakujem, tá prvá citácia je to, čo som mal na mysli. S tabuľkou je práve ten problém, o ktorom hovorím - že nie je voľne publikovaná na internete, ak ju človek chce vidieť, treba si ju vyžiadať od ŠÚ.Carter 07 (diskusia) 18:31, 17. marec 2017 (UTC)
Nedá sa ani naklikať ako zostava v tej ich dátovej kocke? Mal som pocit, že som tie národnostné údaje až po úroveň obcí nejaké roky dozadu z nejakého ŠÚ zdroja sťahoval. ŠÚ je ale bohužiaľ povestný chronickou nestabilitou formy online prezentovania všetkých údajov – zakladajú N rôznych účelových domén, niektoré potom presúvajú, iné bez náhrady rušia, menia URL schémy, atď. Napr. pôvodná Mestská a obecná štatistika (MOS/MIŠ), kde boli pekne linkovateľné údaje pre konkrétnu obec bola nahradená fasa dátovou kockou od IBM, kde sa ale podobný pohľad, aký bol triviálne dostupný v MOS/MIŠ nedá jednoducho získať a už vôbec nie nalinkovať cez nejaký permalink. --Teslaton (diskusia) 18:38, 17. marec 2017 (UTC)
Možno teraz už áno, ale ja, keď som na jeseň tie údaje zháňal, tak som ich takto nikde nenašiel. Vtedy som im napísal e-mail, kde sa dajú nájsť a oni mi v odpovedi rovno poslali tie databázy ako prílohy (excelovské tabuľky). Ale ako to je teraz, či to náhodou nejako nemenili, nemám šajn. Carter 07 (diskusia) 18:42, 17. marec 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-12[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Save page button now says Publish page or Publish changes on the Wikimedia wikis except for Wikipedias and Wikinewses. This change will come to Wikipedias later. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately. Publish page is when you save a new page and Publish changes when you edit an existing page. [2]
  • DMOZ no longer works. Templates that use DMOZ can be redirected to archive.org or another mirror. DMOZ has been removed from the RelatedSites extension on Wikivoyage. [3]
  • You can see monthly page views when you click on Page information in the sidebar. Developers can also get monthly page views through the API. [4]
  • The Linter extension is now on smaller Wikimedia wikis. It helps editors find some wikitext errors so they can be fixed. It will come to other Wikimedia wikis later. The extension will be able to find more errors later. [5]
  • Octicons-tools.svg The MediaWiki-Vagrant portable development environment has been updated to use Debian Jessie. This means local development and testing will be more like on the majority of Wikimedia production servers. [6]

Problems

  • On 15 March some interwiki links to other languages were not correctly sorted. This has been fixed. If you still see pages where the interwiki links are not sorted as they should be, they should be fixed automatically with time or you can edit the page and save it without changing anything. If this doesn't work, please report it. [7]

Changes this week

  • When you edit with the visual editor, you will be able to switch the direction you write in from right-to-left to left-to-right as you are editing. This is especially important for editors who edit in languages that write from right to left. You can do this with a tool in the editing menu. You can also use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Shift+X on PCs or Cmd+Shift+X on Macs. [8]
  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 March. It will be on all wikis from 23 March (calendar).

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 21 marca at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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22:03, 20. marec 2017 (UTC)

Prezidentské kategórie[upraviť zdroj]

Zdravím! Navrhujem mierne zmeny v prezidentských kategóriách. Kategóriu Kategória:Prezidenti Slovenska by som nechal len pre osoby čo zastávali tento úrad. Nad ňu by som vytvoril Kategória:Prezident Slovenskej republiky kde by som dal článok o prezidentovi, o čestnej stráži, kancelárii atď. Výhoda: prehľadnejšie zaradenie. Otázkou však je ako kategorizovať obe kategórie. Ďalšie vec: je prezident vlastne politik? Je hlavou štátu a nie je členom politickej strany. Nechal by som tam len kategóriu ústavných činiteľov. Díky.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 21:25, 24. marec 2017 (UTC)

Samozrejme, že aj prezident je politik. Nezávislí politici tiež nie sú členmi politickej strany, napriek tomu politikmi sú. A nevidím dôvod meniť niečo na terajšej kategorizácii, je plne prehľadná. --Maajo25 (diskusia) 22:10, 24. marec 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-13[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • When you edit with the visual editor, you can see a visual diff as well as a wikitext diff when you review your changes. [9]

Problems

  • Special:AllPages was disabled for two days due to some performance issues. It is back, but the filter for redirects is gone as the cause of the performance problem. It still needs to be fixed. [10][11]

Changes this week

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14:46, 27. marec 2017 (UTC)

Monobook + Internet Explorer[upraviť zdroj]

Ak by tu náhodou ešte niekto editoval s takouto kombináciou (skin Monobook a Internet Explorer 11, možno aj staršie), je vo verzii MediaWiki, čo nasadili tento týždeň nefunkčná (v záhlaví stránky sú prekrývajúce sa linky k notifikáciám a nikam sa nedá kliknúť). Riešenie je iný prehliadač alebo prepnutie na Vector. Pričom na Vector sa dá dočasne prepnúť doplnením ?useskin=vector do URL, resp. trvalo cez nastavenia, odkaz https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences?useskin=vector#mw-prefsection-rendering (doklikať sa tam kvôli tomu bugu z IE nedá, treba použiť ten link). --Teslaton (diskusia) 19:14, 31. marec 2017 (UTC)

Ako som písal pred časom, mne na Chrome (Verzia 57.0.2987.133) dlhšie nenabieha rozšírený panel... Možno v 1/4 prípadov nabehne, no zväčša nie. Netuším, kde je chyba, no parádne ma to vytáča, nakoľko to takmer znemožňuje moju prácu na wiki :( Ostatným to funguje? --Pe3kZA✉ 20:42, 31. marec 2017 (UTC)
Nefunguje, rovnaká verzia. Ani v Opere. V Mozilla Firefox v poriadku. --–Bubamaradisk. 20:49, 31. marec 2017 (UTC)
@Pe3kZA, Bubamara: Skúste pripojiť obsah JS konzoly [Ctrl+Shift+J] pre oba prípady – keď sa vám panel zobrazí a keď nie. Je šanca, že tam bude nejaký rozdiel, tzn. v druhom prípade o nejaký červený riadok s chybou navyše. Pôjde pravdepodobne o nejakú nenaplnenú závislosť, pričom pri asynchrónnom načítavaní zdrojov občas v momente volania naplnená je a občas nie. Na skwiki nikto moc neudržiava globálne ani redaktorské skripty v súlade s aktualizáciami MW, takže veci časom erodujú... Navyše klasický toolbar používa čoraz menej redaktorov, keďže ako default je predvolený rozšírený + ľudia prechádzajú na VisalEditor resp. od neho odvodený "nový" editor wikitextu. Ja mám tiež v nastaveniach zapnutý rozšírený toolbar, takže na problémy, prejavujúce sa len v klasickom toolbare bežne nenarážam. --Teslaton (diskusia) 21:04, 31. marec 2017 (UTC)
@Pe3kZA, Bubamara: Podľa odozvy odhadujem, že o moc pálčivý problém asi nepôjde... --Teslaton (diskusia) 20:52, 7. apríl 2017 (UTC)
@Teslaton: Rozumiem /viacmenej/, čo je JS konzola. Vysvetli prosím jednoducho ako pripojiť. Heslo: Paleolit.Pe3kZA.Bubamara. V opačnom prípade zostáva tváriť sa, že „o moc pálčivý problém asi nejde.“ :-) --–Bubamaradisk. 22:35, 7. apríl 2017 (UTC)
@Bubamara: Heslo paleolit? Tak ja mám potom heslo "zemeguľa je v zrode". :-)--Lalina (diskusia) 22:49, 7. apríl 2017 (UTC)
@Bubamara: Stačí mailom screenshoty načítanej editačnej stránky s otvorenou konzolou (v ktorej by mali byť vidno položky logu), jeden zachytávajúci prípad, keď sa toolbar načíta správne a druhý keď nie. --Teslaton (diskusia) 14:16, 8. apríl 2017 (UTC)

Neviem ako iným, no mne opäť štrajkujú tie panely... Všetky, vrátane základného nad editačným oknom... Pe3kZA✉ 10:27, 29. apríl 2017 (UTC)

Skús teraz [12] (ak by nešlo, tak s [Ctrl+F5]). --Teslaton (diskusia) 11:08, 29. apríl 2017 (UTC)
@Teslaton: Vďaka, funguje. --–Bubamaradisk. 12:29, 29. apríl 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-14[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Uložiť stránku button now says Publikovať stránku or Publikovať zmeny on most Wikipedias. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately. Publikovať stránku is when you save a new page and Publikovať zmeny when you edit an existing page. [13]
  • The tracking category Kategória:Stránky se smyčkami šablon is now added when a template loop is found. A template loop is for example when a template tries to use a second template that uses the first template. [14]
  • English Wikipedia now has cookie blocks. It will come to more wikis in the future. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again. [15]

Problems

  • Wikidata descriptions, aliases and labels that used some characters could not be saved. This has now been fixed. [16]

Changes this week

  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 April. It will be on all wikis from 6 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 4 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the next office hour with the Wikidata team. The meeting will be on 5 April at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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17:53, 3. apríl 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-15[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Changes this week

  • Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis from this week. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can upgrade to a newer version. [19]
  • New filters for Recent changes will come to Wikidata and Persian, Russian, Turkish and French Wikipedia on 11 April. The schedule has been changed to fix the user intent prediction filters for some wikis. User intent prediction means the filter tries to make it easier for editors to determine if the edit was made in good faith or not. Other wikis will get it later. [20]
  • The list of special characters in the wikitext editor and the visual editor will now have a group of Canadian Aboriginal characters. [21]
  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 April. It will be on all wikis from 13 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April and 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.
  • RevisionSlider will change how you move between revisions. This will be available on the test wiki from 11 April. It will come to other wikis later if users like the change. You can test it and give feedback.

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18:34, 10. apríl 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-16[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can add ?safemode=1 to the end of the URL on Wikimedia wikis to disable your personal CSS and JavaScript. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literature?safemode=1. This means you can test if a problem is because of your user scripts or gadgets without uninstalling them. [22]
  • You can now see a list of all autoblocks on Special:AutoblockList. [23]
  • Octicons-tools.svg The Wikiversity and Wikinews logos are now shown directly from the configuration and not from [[File:Wiki.png]]. If you want to change logo or have an anniversary logo, see how to request a configuration change. This is how it already works for other projects. They can request logo changes the same way. [24]

Problems

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this. This will also happen on 3 May.

Changes this week

  • There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 18 apríla at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • stats.wikimedia.org will be replaced. You can see the new prototype. You can leave feedback on this change.
  • Page Previews will be turned on for logged-out users on a large number of wikis in May. It could be postponed and happen later. Page Previews shows readers a short part of a linked article when they rest their mouse pointer on the link. This is to help them understand what it is about without leaving the article they are reading. Page Previews used to be called Hovercards. Users who have tested the feature can give feedback. [25]
  • Octicons-tools.svg From next week, user scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions will show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts. [26][27]

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19:32, 17. apríl 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-17[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

Changes this week

  • The GuidedTour extension will be enabled on all wikis. This is a tool to explain to new users how to edit. [31]
  • Wiktionary will handle interlanguage links in a new way. The Cognate extension will automatically link pages with the same title between Wiktionaries. For this to work all old interlanguage links have to be removed. You can read more about this. [32]
  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 April. It will be on all wikis from 27 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 25 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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16:40, 24. apríl 2017 (UTC)

Doplnenie infoboxu[upraviť zdroj]

Ahojte, v infoboxe Lokalita Svetového dedičstva mi osobne dosť chýba zobrazenie polohy na mapke v rámci danej krajiny. Jeden pohľad na infobox môže zjednodušiť hľadanie, resp. poskytnúť ucelenejšiu predstavu o danej pamiatke. Môžete to prosím doplniť?--Pe3kZA✉ 12:37, 27. apríl 2017 (UTC)

Mobilné zobrazenie SK webovej stránky[upraviť zdroj]

V mobilnej verzii stránky sú české slová:

  • Stránku naposledy upravil xx před 3 lety – päta stránky
  • SOUVISEJÍCI STRÁNKY – päta stránky
  • editace stránky + tlačitko Další – pri editácii
  • atď

Kto má k tomu prístup? Môžem aj ja? --Vegetator (diskusia) 12:37, 27. apríl 2017 (UTC)

Môže v princípe ktokoľvek [33], má to ale svoje špecifiká (formulácie a pojmy používané v nových prekladoch by mali byť konzistentné s tými, použitými pri ostatných reťazcoch, najmä tých, ktoré s prekladanými tvoria nejakú ucelenú sadu; treba poznať syntax GENDER/PLURAL volaní; rozlišovať texty a prípadné identifikátory; atď.), takže ak tak s citom a po zorientovaní sa. Výhoda je, ak už človek pričuchol k lokalizácii nejakého sw. SK lokalizácii MW sa tam nárazovo venujem, je ale pravda, že na mobilné aplikácie ani mobilné zobrazenie sa veľmi nesústreďujem (keďže nie som moc ich fanúšikom), tým sa venuje skôr Kusavica. Tie konkrétne spomenuté ale môžem pozrieť, keď sa tomu budem najbližšie venovať. --Teslaton (diskusia) 13:32, 27. apríl 2017 (UTC)
Mimochodom, toto nie je chyba ale zámerné nastavenie, ktoré vzišlo z diskusie a prieskumu. Viac info na TranslateWiki. V skratke: V prípade, že daný prekladový reťazec nie je preložený do slovenčiny ale je preložený do češtiny, zámerne sa zobrazí český preklad (inak by sa zobrazil anglický). --KuboF Hromoslav (diskusia) 12:00, 11. máj 2017 (UTC)
Hej, samotný sk↔cs fallback sa tu už preberal [34] (pričom zavedenie bolo vnímané dosť kontroverzne, rovnako na cswiki z času na čas výskyt slovenčiny v rozhraní vzbudí emócie), tento dotaz smeroval myslím skôr k prekladu týchto konkrétnych reťazcov.
A pre korektnosť: z prieskumu (používateľského) ani žiadnej širšej diskusie to pokiaľ viem nevzišlo, šlo o čistú párchlapovú iniciatívu, inšpirovanú jednou akademickou prácou o jazykovej blízkosti češtiny a slovenčiny. Tým nutne nezatracujem výsledok, má to svoje rácio. Tiež to ale prinieslo aj viacero nedomyslených vedľaších efektov, plus niektorí jedinci sú tu na češtinu z rôznych nie nutne racionálnych dôvodov alergickejší než na angličtinu (dtto. v cs na slovenčinu). --Teslaton (diskusia) 13:16, 11. máj 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-18[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.

Changes this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 2 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • All Wikimedia wikis will have cookie blocks from May 8. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again. [38]
  • The Publikovať zmeny, Zobraziť náhľad and Zobraziť rozdiely buttons will look slightly different. This is to fit with the OOUI look. Users can test scripts, gadgets and so on to see if they work with the new interface by adding &ooui=1 to the URL. [39]

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19:49, 1. máj 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-19[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Some users have a problem with the watchlist. Some changes in categories make the watchlist a blank page. The developers are working on this. Until this is fixed you can try some things that have helped other editors if you have this problem. You can turn on Skryť kategorizáciu stránok in your watchlist preferences. You can turn off Rozšíriť zoznam sledovaných stránok, aby zobrazoval všetky úpravy, nie len posledné in your watchlist preferences. You can remove problematic categories from Special:EditWatchlist/raw. [40]
  • There was a problem with the visual editor for several days. You could not save edits that triggered a CAPTCHA. This would for example be when a new user added external links in references. This was fixed on 2 May. [41]

Changes this week

  • When you edit you can switch between the visual editor and the wikitext editor. This works if the wiki you edit has the visual editor. The menu will now say Visual editing and Source editing instead of Switch to visual editing and Switch to code editing. This is because it was confusing when the menu said you could switch to the editor you were already using. [42]
  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 May. It will be on all wikis from 11 May (calendar).

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 9 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • You will be able to get a notification when a page you created is connected to a Wikidata item. This will come to Wikivoyage on 9 May. If there are no problems it will come to most Wikipedias on 30 May. It will come to other projects and English, French and German Wikipedia later in the summer. It will be opt-in for existing users and opt-out for new users. [43][44]
  • Octicons-tools.svg Markup that looks like code for language variants might need to be fixed. If -{ is used in transclusions or web addresses it has to be escaped appropriately. You can use -<nowiki/>{ for transclusions and %2D{ in web addresses. A transclusion could for example be when you use -{ in a template: {{1x| sad :-{ face }}. This is because of some code fixes to the preprocessor and affects all wikis. [45][46]

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02:24, 9. máj 2017 (UTC)

Editing News #1—2017[upraviť zdroj]

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VisualEditor
Did you know?

Did you know that you can review your changes visually?

Screenshot showing some changes to an article. Most changes are highlighted with text formatting.
When you are finished editing the page, type your edit summary and then choose "Skontrolovať zmeny".

In visual mode, you will see additions, removals, new links, and formatting highlighted. Other changes, such as changing the size of an image, are described in notes on the side.


Toggle button showing visual and wikitext options; visual option is selected.


Click the toggle button to switch between visual and wikitext diffs.


Screenshot showing the same changes, in the two-column wikitext diff display.


The wikitext diff is the same diff tool that is used in the wikitext editors and in the page history. You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.


Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and adding the new visual diff tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving the visual diff tool.

Recent changes[upraviť zdroj]

  • A new wikitext editing mode is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. The 2017 wikitext editor has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. Go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures to enable the Nový režim wikitextu.
  • A new visual diff tool is available in VisualEditor's visual mode. You can toggle between wikitext and visual diffs. More features will be added to this later. In the future, this tool may be integrated into other MediaWiki components. [47]
  • The team have added multi-column support for lists of footnotes. The <references /> block can automatically display long lists of references in columns on wide screens. This makes footnotes easier to read. You can request multi-column support for your wiki. [48]
  • You can now use your web browser's function to switch typing direction in the new wikitext mode. This is particularly helpful for RTL language users like Urdu or Hebrew who have to write JavaScript or CSS. You can use Command+Shift+X or Control+Shift+X to trigger this. [49]
  • The way to switch between the visual editing mode and the wikitext editing mode is now consistent. There is a drop-down menu that shows the two options. This is now the same in desktop and mobile web editing, and inside things that embed editing, such as Flow. [50]
  • The Kategórie item has been moved to the top of the Možnosti stránky menu (from clicking on the "hamburger" icon) for quicker access. [51] There is also now a "Templates used on this page" feature there. [52]
  • You can now create <chem> tags (sometimes used as <ce>) for chemical formulas inside the visual editor. [53]
  • Tables can be set as collapsed or un-collapsed. [54]
  • The Špeciálny znak menu now includes characters for Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics and angle quotation marks (‹› and ⟨⟩) . The team thanks the volunteer developer, Tpt. [55]
  • A bug caused some section edit conflicts to blank the rest of the page. This has been fixed. The team are sorry for the disruption. [56]
  • There is a new keyboard shortcut for citations: Control+Shift+K on a PC, or Command+Shift+K on a Mac. It is based on the keyboard shortcut for making links, which is Control+K or Command+K respectively. [57]

Future changes[upraviť zdroj]

  • The team is working on a syntax highlighting tool. It will highlight matching pairs of <ref> tags and other types of wikitext syntax. You will be able to turn it on and off. It will first become available in VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode, maybe late in 2017. [58]
  • The kind of button used to Zobraziť náhľad, Zobraziť rozdiely, and finish an edit will change in all WMF-supported wikitext editors. The new buttons will use OOjs UI. The buttons will be larger, brighter, and easier to read. The labels will remain the same. You can test the new button by editing a page and adding &ooui=1 to the end of the URL, like this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox?action=edit&ooui=1 The old appearance will no longer be possible, even with local CSS changes. [59]
  • The outdated 2006 wikitext editor will be removed later this year. It is used by approximately 0.03% of active editors. See a list of editing tools on mediawiki.org if you are uncertain which one you use. [60]
  • If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Ďakujeme

—Elitre (WMF)

18:05, 12. máj 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-20[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • The mediawiki.util library does not load automatically any more. Your Special:MyPage/common.js may use it. If you have technical problems that started a couple of weeks ago you can try adding mw.loader.using( 'mediawiki.util' ).done(function(){ as the first line in the file and }); as a last one. Tech News wrote about this in the 2017/18 issue. [63]

Changes this week

  • The RevisionSlider extension will be a default feature on all wikis. RevisionSlider is an easier way to move between changes in the page history. It has been a default feature on German, Arabic and Hebrew Wikipedia and a beta feature on all wikis. You will be able to turn it off in your preferences. [64]
  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

Older unreported changes

  • Your Meta user page is shown on all wikis where you don't have a local user page. You can now add the magic word __NOGLOBAL__ to your Meta user page to stop this. [69][70]

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21:48, 15. máj 2017 (UTC)

New notification when a page is connected to Wikidata[upraviť zdroj]

Hello all,

(Pomôžte prosím s prekladom do svojho jazyka)

The Wikidata development team is about to deploy a new feature on all Wikipedias. It is a new type of notification (via Echo, the notification system you see at the top right of your wiki when you are logged in), that will inform the creator of a page, when this page is connected to a Wikidata item.

You may know that Wikidata provides a centralized system for all the interwikilinks. When a new page is created, it should be connected to the corresponding Wikidata item, by modifying this Wikidata item. With this new notification, editors creating pages will be informed when another editor connects this page to Wikidata.

Screenshot Echo Wikibase notification.png

This feature will be deployed on May 30th on all the Wikipedias, excepting English, French and German. This feature will be disable by default for existing editors, and enabled by default for new editors.

This is the first step of the deployments, the Wikipedias and other Wikimedia projects will follow in the next months.

If you have any question, suggestion, please let me know by pinging me. You can also follow and leave a comment on the Phabricator ticket.

Thanks go to Matěj Suchánek who developed this feature!

Ďakujeme Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk)

Navigačná lišta[upraviť zdroj]

Zdravím, vie niekto prečo je šablóna Navigačná lišta stále rozbalená, keď si dobre pamätám tak pri väčšom počte šablón v článku, boli tieto šablóny vždy zbalené. Teraz to nevyzerá dobre, keď je niekde pod sebou päť veľkých rozbalených šablón. Pozri napr. v článku Belianska jaskyňa.--Gepetito (diskusia) 11:27, 22. máj 2017 (UTC)

Fixol som problém, kvôli ktorému náhodne zlyhávali lokálne site skripty [71], čo sa prejavovalo okrem iného nezbalením navboxov (nie že by to client-side zbaľovanie bola nejaká veľká sláva - načíta sa to vždy rozbalené a v nejakom momente sa to eventuálne zbalí, niekedy to trvá rádovo sekundy). --Teslaton (diskusia) 23:21, 22. máj 2017 (UTC)
Díky už to funguje. Všimol som si aj pri infoboxe živočíchy, že predtým mi nešli rozbaliť. Myslel som že chyba je u mňa, ale teraz to už funguje. --Gepetito (diskusia) 10:29, 23. máj 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-21[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes this week

  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 May. It will be on all wikis from 25 May (calendar).
  • Octicons-tools.svg There will be a <div> tag around HTML from the MediaWiki wikitext parser. Gadgets with code that does not follow recommendations could have problems with this. You can report new problems you think are related to this. [72]

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22:02, 22. máj 2017 (UTC)

Šablóna...[upraviť zdroj]

Ahojte, narazil som na problém. Vytváral som si svoju prvú šablónu v kóde a pri je dokončení pri náhľade sa zobrazilo toto:

  • Zistená slučka v šablónach: Šablóna:Infobox F1 tím

Čo som spravil zle? Olilongi777 (diskusia) 10:16, 27. máj 2017 (UTC)

Už netreba, vyriešil som to inak :) Olilongi777 (diskusia) 10:45, 28. máj 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-22[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Last week’s MediaWiki version was rolled back from some wikis because of a problem. This means planned changes did not happen. [73]

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 30 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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12:18, 30. máj 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-23[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can see new files on Special:NewFiles. You can now pick which dates you want to see files from. [75]
  • When you read Wikipedia on a mobile device the first paragraph now comes before the infobox. [76]
  • You can now remove navigation elements from your results when you search. This could for example be part of an infobox that is only there to help you find the previous or next article. [77]
  • New users on Wikivoyages and Wikipedias (except French, English and German) now get a notification when a page they created is connected to Wikidata. Other wikis will get it 13 June. [78]

Problems

  • The MediaWiki version from two weeks ago was rolled back. It was fixed late last week. Changes that were planned to go out last week did not happen. [79]

Changes this week

  • Wikimedia wikis can show fewer links to articles in other languages. This is to make it easier to find the languages likely to be useful to the reader or editor. Everyone can still click to see the full list. Logged-in users who use the compact language links will see languages they have in their Babel box on their user page in the first, shorter list. You can turn the compact language list off or on in your preferences. [80]
  • You can choose what dates to look at when you look at a user's contributions. [81]
  • When you click on your watchlist in the mobile view you get a list of all pages in the watchlist instead of the latest changes to them. Logged-in users with at least ten edits will now get the latest changes instead. [82]
  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 June. It will be on all wikis from 8 June (calendar).
  • Octicons-tools.svg String comparisons in Scribunto modules are now always done case-insensitively by byte order. Before they were sometimes in a case-sensitive US-English collation order. This could break some modules. [83]

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The 2006 wikitext editor will be removed the week of 27 June. This is the old toolbar with small square blue buttons. You can see a picture of it. 0.03% of active Wikimedia editors use this old tool. They will not see a toolbar at all. [84][85]
  • Wikimedia wikis use OCG to create PDFs. The OCG code has a lot of problems and will stop working. It has to be replaced. An alternative is Electron. You can tell the developers what you need the PDF service to be able to do. Electron already works on German Wikipedia. It will be on English Wikipedia later this week so you can test it there too. [86]
  • Octicons-tools.svg The Architecture Committee will change and get a new name. You can read and comment on the draft that describes the new committee.

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19:04, 5. jún 2017 (UTC)

Prosím pozrieť[upraviť zdroj]

Créteil-Ouest --Pe3kZA✉ 09:21, 11. jún 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-24[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Some wikis have the larger and brighter OOjs UI edit page buttons. When you write an edit summary there you can now see how many bytes you have left before the summary is too long. [87]
  • When you search on Wikipedia you can now find pages on other Wikimedia projects that could be relevant. You see them next to the search results. [88]

Changes this week

  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 June. It will be on all wikis from 15 June (calendar).

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • You will soon be able to get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account. You can test this on the test wiki. This will only work if they fail to log in to your account. [89]
  • Wikimedia wikis use OCG to create PDFs. The OCG code has a lot of problems and will stop working. It has to be replaced. An alternative is Electron. You can tell the developers what you need the PDF service to be able to do. Electron now works on all Wikimedia projects. [90]
  • Administrators can soon search for deleted page titles and find results that are similar to what they searched for. Today the search only finds pages that are exactly the same as what you search for. This is to make it easier to find pages when you don't know the exact title. Administrators on Arabic, Catalan, English, Persian, German, Italian, Polish, and Russian Wikipedia and on mediawiki.org can test this by adding &fuzzy=1 to the end of the web address when looking at Special:Undelete. [91][92]

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15:29, 12. jún 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-25[upraviť zdroj]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • ORES had some problems on 13 June between 16:00 and 19:40 UTC. It has now been fixed. [93]

Changes this week

  • irc.wikimedia.org has to be rebooted. This will probably happen on 21 June. It may be postponed. Some tools use this to get the recent changes feed. They will not work when it is down. [94]
  • Octicons-tools.svg Special:PageData will be an entry point for machine-readable page data. [95]
  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 June. It will be on all wikis from 22 June (calendar).

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 20 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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15:44, 19. jún 2017 (UTC)

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