Wikipédia:Kaviareň/Technické

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Archív technických tém

Diskusie pri tomto stole staršie ako 30 dní (dátum poslednej reakcie) sú presúvané do archívu.

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Severné Macedónsko

Zdravím! Všimol som si dnes, že po premenovaní Macedónska na Severné Macedónsko sme síce premiestnili článok a presmerovali nejaké wikilinky, ale s kategóriami sme nepohli. Niektoré z nich som teda popresúval, ale ešte niektoré ostali (potrebujem aj do práce pracovať). Otázne je ako vyriešiť prídavné meno, teda kategórie typu Kategória:Macedónske osobnosti v kultúre. Presunúť na severomacedónske osobnosti?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 09:02, 3. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Nikto nič?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 12:56, 7. apríl 2020 (UTC)

@Jetam2: [1] – podľa mňa presunúť. --TomášP ✉ 13:38, 7. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Rovnako Názvy štátov používa prídavné meno „severomacedónska“, takže aj pri kategóriach by som tak šiel. Vasiľ (diskusia) 17:40, 7. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• There was a problem with user pages not being shown properly on desktop. This was because of a bug. It will soon be fixed. [2]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 April. It will be on all wikis from 9 April (calendar).

Future changes

• MediaWiki will use a newer version of Unicode. Some characters that did not have an upper case equivalent before do now. Titles beginning with one of these characters will be moved. A list of these titles can be seen on Phabricator. The titles will be renamed by the user Maintenance script. This will start on 13 April 2020. You can rename them before this if you wish and the new title can be different from the one the script would rename it to. [3]

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19:01, 6. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools

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This early version of the Reply tool automatically signs and indents comments.

The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.

In a future update, the team plans to test a tool for easily linking to another user's name, a rich-text editing option, and other tools.

The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.

• On 31 March 2020, the new Reply tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
• The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
  • an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
  • a rich-text visual editing option, and
  • other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.

To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

19:27, 8. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now use the articletopic search word on all Wikipedias. It searches articles by topic. [4]
• You can see wiki tools in the new Tools Gallery. [5]
• You can see edits from the Wikimedia Cloud Services in a new dashboard.
• When you use filters on a history page you sometimes don't see any edits. There is a text explaining this now. Before it was just empty. [6]
• There is a new Wikimedia Technical Blog. [7]

Problems

• There was a problem with the Wikidata database last week. Some wikis went down for twenty minutes. Wikidata and other projects showed error messages. Interwiki links were not shown, some tools did not work and other problems. Some of this was fixed quickly. The developers are working on fixing the rest. [8][9][10]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 15. It will be on all wikis from April 16 (calendar).

Future changes

• Some graphs have not worked on mobile. This will soon be fixed. [11]
• The article tab on talk pages of redirects links to the target of the redirect. It could link to the redirect page itself instead. You can leave feedback on this.
• For pages using syntax highlighting, the use of the deprecated <source> tag, as well as the use of the deprecated enclose parameter, will add tracking categories.

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15:30, 13. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

• The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 4 May 2020.

Recent changes

• The small wiki toolkits is to help smaller wikis that need technical skills. They can learn and share technical skills. [12]
• Over-qualified CSS selectors in Wikimedia skins have been removed. div#content is now .mw-body. div.portal is now .portal. div#footer is now #footer. This is so the skins can use HTML5 elements. If your gadgets or user styles used them you will have to update them. [13]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• Some things on the wikis might look weird or not work in Internet Explorer 8 in the future. Internet Explorer 8 was replaced in 2011. [14]
• The font in the diffs will change. [15]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 April next week. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 April next week. It will be on all wikis from 30 April next week (calendar).

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18:44, 20. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Technical maintenance planned

(Sorry for using English. Pomôžte prosím s prekladom do svojho jazyka.)

A maintenance operation will be performed on Thursday 30th April at 05:00 AM UTC.

It impacts all wikis and is supposed to last a few minutes.

During this time, new translations may fail, and Notifications may not be delivered. For more details about the operation and on all impacted services, please check on Phabricator.

A banner will be displayed 30 minutes before the operation.

Please help making your community aware of this maintenance operation.

Trizek (WMF), 18:01, 27. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Reminder: Technical maintenance planed

Sorry to use English. Pomôžte prosím s prekladom do svojho jazyka.

This is a reminder of the message sent on Monday 27th April.

A maintenance operation will be performed on Thursday 30th April at 05:00 AM UTC.

It impacts all wikis and is supposed to last a few minutes.

During this time, new translations may fail, and Notifications may not be delivered. For more details about the operation and on all impacted services, please check on Phabricator.

A banner will be displayed 30 minutes before the operation.

Please help making your community aware of this maintenance operation.

Trizek (WMF) 15:13, 29. apríl 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-19

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Some wikis will be on read-only for a few minutes on 5 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [16]
• Some wikis will be on read-only for a few minutes on 7 May. This will also affect CentralAuth. This can for example affect global renames, password changes, changing or confirming your email address and logging in to new wikis. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [17]

Changes later this week

• You can get a notification when someone links to a page you created. You can soon turn these notifications off for individual pages. [18]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 May. It will be on all wikis from 7 May (calendar).

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16:59, 4. máj 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-20

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Everyone can now import photos from Flickr to Commons with the UploadWizard. Before this only autopatrollers on Commons could import photos from Flickr. [19]

Problems

• Commons will be on read-only for a few minutes on 12 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [20]
• Several wikis including Wikidata will be on read-only for a few minutes on 19 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. English Wikipedia will be on read-only for a few minutes on 21 May 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [21][22]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 May. It will be on all wikis from 14 May (calendar).

Future changes

• JavaScript scripts and gadgets can no longer check multiple keys at once via mw.config.exists() or mw.user.tokens.exists(). You can use exists() or get() to check one at a time instead. [23]

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20:40, 11. máj 2020 (UTC)

Obyvateľstvo v rakúskych obciach

Všimla som si, že šablóny na počet obyvateľov v rakúskych obciach sú s dátumom k 01. 01. 2014. Na de wiki je už údaj k 01. 01. 2019. Poprosím technických majstrov o aktualizáciu.--Lalina (diskusia) 20:40, 12. máj 2020 (UTC)

@Lalina: Je to vec na ľudí, ktorí to sem importovali. Buď by bolo treba aktualizovať dátové šablóny, alebo to preklopiť na ťahanie z Wikiúdajov, alebo neaktualizovať ID obcí. Ja sa starám o SK obce, konzistencia a aktuálnosť AT je už mimo môj scope a časové možnosti. --Teslaton (diskusia) 11:07, 22. máj 2020 (UTC)

Taktiež nemám na to chuť ani kapacitu.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 11:29, 22. máj 2020 (UTC)

Záporné čísla v tabuľke

Pri úprave stránky Pandémia koronavírusu SARS-CoV-2 na Slovensku som pridal do tabuľky záporné čísla (zmena počtu aktívnych prípadov), ale znak "-" tabuľka chápe ako nový riadok. Čo mám použiť namiesto neho? (Upravím to sám, len trochu zmením python program a mám to za minútu) 1Mmarek (diskusia) 15:56, 18. máj 2020 (UTC)

Vyriešil som to tak, že som "-" zamenil za "{{--}}". Vyzerá to čudne, keďže je to omnoho širšie než normálne mínus (-5 vs.  – 5), ale určite je to zlepšenie oproti trhaniu riadkov. 1Mmarek (diskusia) 16:18, 18. máj 2020 (UTC)

@1Mmarek: To pls. nerob, š. {{--}} vkladá pomlčku (U+2013, –, „–“), navyše ešte obalenú nedeliteľnými medzerami a používa sa na typograficky korektnú sadzbu číselných rozsahov (1{{--}}5 → „1 – 5“). Znak mínus je odlišný od pomlčky (U+2212, −, „−“), v tabuľkách sa ale bežne používa ASCII variant pre mínus/spojovník (U+002D, „-“), dostupný z klávesnice. Pointa je, že hodnoty buniek sa vo wikimarkupe štandardne odsadzujú medzerou [24], potom záporné č. s tagmi pre začiatok bunky nekolidujú. Ďalšia vec, že číselné hodnoty je v tabuľkách dobrým zvykom zarovnávať doprava, aby boli rády pod sebou, v tomto prípade je možné doprava zarovnať všetky dátové bunky tabuľky. --Teslaton (diskusia) 17:02, 18. máj 2020 (UTC)

Ďakujem za vyjasnenie a opravu; mínusy, pomlčky i spojovníky ma vždy mýlili --1Mmarek (diskusia) 10:03, 19. máj 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-21

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• If you forget your password you can ask for a new one to be sent to your email address. You need to know your email address or your username. You can choose that you need to enter both your email address and your username. This is a preference. This is to get fewer password reset emails someone else asked for. This is now available on all Wikimedia wikis. [25][26]

Problems

• There is a bug that creates problems for iPhone users with iOS 13 and Safari. If you use an iPhone to read or edit Wikipedia and see bugs on the mobile site you can report them. [27]
• Several wikis including Wikidata will be on read-only for a few minutes on 19 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. English Wikipedia will be on read-only for a few minutes on 21 May 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [28][29]

Changes later this week

• The Wikipedia app for Android can let users add depicts on Commons. The beta version used computer-aided tagging. This was removed to get more specific depicts. [30]
• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• Graphs will be rendered in the reader's browser. This will use Javascript. Graphs will hopefully work better for everyone who uses Javascript. It will not work for users who don't use Javascript. This will not affect diagrams in image files. [31]
• Some CSS for the skins has been simplified. This affects div#p-personal, div#p-navigation, div#p-interaction, div#p-tb, div#p-lang, div#p-namespaces, div#p-variants and div#footer. They will have to remove div. You will have to update your gadgets, scripts or user styles. This is so we can use HTML5. [32]
• Some CSS for the Vector skin has been changed. This affects #p-variants, #p-namespaces, #p-personal, #p-views and #p-cactions. They can no longer use > ul. You might need to update your gadgets, scripts or user styles. See how.

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17:18, 18. máj 2020 (UTC)

Kategória pre olympionikov, ktorým boli odobraté medaily

Zdravím! Ako naformulovať kategóriu pre olympionikov, ktorým boli odobraté medaily? Skúsil som Kategória:Olympionici s odobratými medailami, ale znie to akoby tie medaily (ešte) mali. Máte niekto nápad? Vďaka.--Jetam2 (diskusia) 17:07, 22. máj 2020 (UTC)

• Olympionici, ktorým boli odobraté medaily?
• Olympionici po odobratí medailí?
• Olympionici zbavení [olympijských] medailí?
• Súťažiaci zbavení olympijských medailí? (je ešte na mieste „olympionici“?)
• Športovci zbavení olympijských medailí? (ak nie Olympionici, tak asi skôr Športovci, je to konzistentnejšie s kat., ktoré tu už máme [33])

--Teslaton (diskusia) 17:32, 22. máj 2020 (UTC)

Dobrá pripomienka či je vôbec na mieste „olympionici“. Celkom sa prikláňam k poslednému návrhu. Hm, akosi som si myslel, že čiarky sa technicky nedajú použiť, ale pokiaľ áno, aj tá prvá je ok. Iné názory?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 17:51, 22. máj 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-22

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The visual editor will now work in the Modern skin. The changes that needed to happen for this to work could cause problems for some scripts or gadgets. [34]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 26. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 27. It will be on all wikis from May 28 (calendar).

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14:17, 25. máj 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-23

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There is a new beta version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It has a new zoom function when you look at images. It can also suggest places when you upload geotagged photos. [35]

Problems

• There was a problem with the Commons database on 27 May. Commons could not be edited for eight minutes. Because of this problem the database was moved. This caused another short read-only time on 29 May. [36][37][38]
• The Vector skin had a problem where you couldn't add links to the article in other languages. You couldn't see the section if there were no links to other languages already. It also removed content translation links and links to language settings. This has now been fixed. [39]

Changes later this week

• You can get a notification when someone links to a page you created. You can turn these notifications off for individual pages. You can soon turn them off also in the notifications you get. [40]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 June. It will be on all wikis from 4 June (calendar).

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22:30, 1. jún 2020 (UTC)

Šablóna Infoboxu

Vytvoril som novú šablónu Šablóna:Infobox protest, podľa šablóny Šablóna:Infobox Bitka. Do syntaxu vytvárania šablón sa veľmi nevyznám a chvíľu mi trvalo, kým som dosiahol to, čo som s tou šablónou chcel dosiahnuť, lenže má jeden problém. Hociaký text, ktorý sa dá ďalej na stránke, za tú šablónu, tak sa vloží na koniec do vnútra Infoboxu. To sa mi stalo aj na tejto rozpracovanej stránke, kde som vložil sekciu Zdroje. Tá sa vložila priamo na spodok infoboxu. Ak by ste to niekto vedel napraviť, poprípade vysvetliť mi, ako to môžem napraviť, budem vám veľmi vďačný :). --Matroxko (diskusia) 01:55, 2. jún 2020 (UTC)

@Matroxko: Myslím si, že vhodnejšie by bolo použiť priamo šablónu Šablóna:Infobox, namiesto taubľky, ktorá je štylizovaná ako infobox. Tam by mali problémy tohto druhu zaniknúť. --KasciJ 06:15, 2. jún 2020 (UTC)

Šablónu ktorú si vytvoril už tu máme takže je to zbytočná duplicita a treba používať len jednu, túto treba zmazať. Rovnakú šablónu na takéto účely máš tu - Šablóna:Infobox Konflikt, anglická je tu Template:Infobox civil conflict, ktorá sa používa aj na protesty. Keď ti tam chýbajú nejaké položky stačí len doplniť pôvodnú, nie vytvárať novú.--2A02:AB04:27BD:D900:955:1473:96B3:880B 15:21, 4. jún 2020 (UTC)

Áno, už som si to všimol. Napísal som o tom v diskusii k šablóne protest. Tak trochu upravím Šablóna: Infobox Konflikt a vymažem tie šablóny spojiť s na ostatných stránkach. Keď to spravím, napíšem sem, aby niekto potom vymazal šablónu protest - Matroxko 💬 ✒️ 15:49, 4. jún 2020 (UTC)

Pokúsil som sa upraviť tú šablónu konflikt, ale niečo tam nie je dobre. Teraz je robená pomocou wikitable a ja v tom mám taký menši chaos, ale ak by som mohol tak ju spravím cez Infobox. Alebo ak by to niekto vedel napraviť, tak prosím aj tak urobte. Ďakujem - Matroxko 💬 ✒️ 16:25, 4. jún 2020 (UTC)

Šablóna:Infobox Konflikt je už prerobená a použitá aj v článku Protesty po smrti Georga Floyda. Všetky 3 články, v ktorých bola použitá Šablóna:Infobox Konflikt, pred tým, ako som ju teraz upravil, som aktualizoval. Tým pádom sa môže Šablóna:Infobox protest zmazať. - Matroxko 💬 ✒️ 17:18, 4. jún 2020 (UTC)

Ešte by bolo dobre nejako poriešiť tu koláž v infoboxe. Zobrazuje sa zle, ostáva tam hore „[[Obrázok:“ a dole „|300px“. --2A02:AB04:27BD:D900:955:1473:96B3:880B 17:31, 4. jún 2020 (UTC)